i wish i were clever and had something to say, but we all know this shit is all opinions. ow is just as "right" now as he was back in the day, although probably more right back in the day.

all i know is i'd personally gaze in a hell of a lot more awe if i came across the old 5.12 traddie of the past as compared to the 5.13 climber of the now. yeah, i'm a relative newb that just barely climbs 5.11 and has never and may never bolt anything so my opinion is for shit, but i say long live the trad! isn't it kind of cool to have a whole other style anyway, especially if it's more suited to be protected without bolts? it's like chocolate and vanilla. some people like one, some the other, some both, some even prefer them mixed, but isn't it nice that they're both around for the choosing? and i don't want something that looks like chocolate and tastes like vanilla either; that's just stupid.
perhaps this is just another thread to stir the pot; i really hope you people aren't climbing nazi's (and i'm not even a traddie)
efil lanrete... i enjoy the sound, but in truth i find this seductively backward idea to be quite frightening