trad multipitch?

Post by JR » Sat Feb 22, 2003 8:02 pm

I don't recommend Foxfire. There is exactly one move that is 5.7. And the rest is crap. 200+ feet of crap.

Post by **deleted username** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 8:53 pm

JR, it's called adventure climbing!

Personally really dig it. The first pitch is the only crap, the rest is just weird fun.

Post by **Yasmeen** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 9:11 pm

Wait, you dug Shaggy too, right?

Post by **deleted username** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:29 pm

Yasmeen, I do not know that I can say that I dug shaggy, fore this seems to be inadequate verbage for such a route. When Johnny bolted this one, he broke the mold, that's all there is to it. Would all the stars in the heavens be given to Shaggy, it would still prove too few.

Post by **ynot** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 9:38 pm

Multipitch in the Red isn't as good as other places I have been but I still wouldn't call Foxfire"crap" Yea a couple of the pitches are rotten,The last 3 looked pretty cool. Like JB said we call it adventure climbing here.

Post by JR » Mon Feb 24, 2003 8:03 pm

Think of it this way. Roadside Attration is the same grade. And tons of people break it up into more than one pitch. So you can just throw out the argument that it is just fine for the Red crap.

Is foxfire still "pretty cool"?

But you do have a point with the adventure climbing thing. Is adventure climbing a Euphemism for crawling around on your knees?

Post by **deleted username** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 8:37 pm

You can't argue something that is solely based on something as subjective opinions. This is almost as dumb as arguing something as subjective as ratings.

I think Foxfire is good fun and really enjoy the easy runout second pitch, 3rd pitch "i'm supposed to do what?" crawl, and fourth pitch roof followed by runout.

You think it's crap. We're both right.

Seems like everybody on here needs to get out and climb soon since we continue to try and classify and quantify climbing into neat little categories, star quality, numbers, and popularity. I find the attempt to categorize and classify and standardize things very tedious in "real life", and climbing is one of my attempts to move away from that. I enjoy climbing. I don't need to label it. I did once, but not now.

Post by **CBP** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 8:38 pm

Hey man, nothing beats my adventure climbing experience on Fox-Fire: Climbed several pitches w/ very pregnant wife while idiots "down-holler" were touching-off L.P. tanks with .22's. Very Loud.

Post by **Johnny** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:55 pm

Foxfire is a lot harder if you run all the pitches together in a single pitch. If you do it that way, I recommend not placing any gear until after the traverse.

Post by JR » Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:59 pm

JB, You are right, I would kill to be on foxfire. This winter fucking sucks.