Larry? Wanna comment on the FA?
Foxfire has a long history of people getting off-route. If you haven't been off-route on Foxfire then you haven't really tried. I guarantee that whatever you did wasn't an FA.
Epic on Fox Fire
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Re: Epic on Fox Fire
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Re: Epic on Fox Fire
"Steve,
I wouldn't know if what you've done is a first ascent or not. It's been over 30 years since I was on the route and don't remember a lot of details. I would imagine that people have wandered around a bit up there. I know there's a much harder variation to the original line off to the left and I once did a variation to the right of the original line, but I took off to the right quite high on the route, not down low like you did. In any event it sounds like you had a good time. You might want to go back sometime and do the original route. It's a lot of fun.
What with almost all climbers in the gorge being into sport climbing there must be literally hundreds of unclimbed lines available for first ascents. You might want to scour over some topos looking for contour lines that come together or maybe Google Earth would be a good resource. We found the stuff we did back in the day by just hiking into areas that looked like they might be a likely source of new routes. There are at least a few people out there that are really going after new lines. You might consider getting together with them. Finding and climbing new lines in the RRG was some of the most fun I ever had rock climbing. Keep it safe and have lots of fun out there."
I wouldn't know if what you've done is a first ascent or not. It's been over 30 years since I was on the route and don't remember a lot of details. I would imagine that people have wandered around a bit up there. I know there's a much harder variation to the original line off to the left and I once did a variation to the right of the original line, but I took off to the right quite high on the route, not down low like you did. In any event it sounds like you had a good time. You might want to go back sometime and do the original route. It's a lot of fun.
What with almost all climbers in the gorge being into sport climbing there must be literally hundreds of unclimbed lines available for first ascents. You might want to scour over some topos looking for contour lines that come together or maybe Google Earth would be a good resource. We found the stuff we did back in the day by just hiking into areas that looked like they might be a likely source of new routes. There are at least a few people out there that are really going after new lines. You might consider getting together with them. Finding and climbing new lines in the RRG was some of the most fun I ever had rock climbing. Keep it safe and have lots of fun out there."
Re: Epic on Fox Fire
We do that route differently everytime we do it. You can zig left and avoid bvd, just avoid the large loose blocks. Our first time, we wigged right before the bvd. That thing is a blank canvas.
Re: Epic on Fox Fire
Trees atop a climb are stingy about giving back your rope after rapping off. A piece of webbing and a quicklink left behind beats re-climbing to retrieve your rope.
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Not to mention it trashes the tree.
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We walked off (to the climb's left) and eventually made it back to the bottom. Lots of broken glass and garbage at the bottom.