Charged With Murder

Post by **Pcgoss** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:25 pm

Interesting story of a climber being charged with murder.... long but interesting read

http://www.rockclimbing.com/Articles/Ge ... _1022.html\

Post by **DriskellHR** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:17 pm

nice find mini-goss, pretty f'ed up though.

Post by **Brentucky** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:46 pm

yep, f'd up. of course the cannabis gets blamed again for the user's stupidity!

Post by **michaelarmand** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:22 am

Wow...very interesting read. I am amazed the grandy jury indicted for murder. It seems to me the actual cause of death was the victims failure to tie in properly. I could maybe see a criminally negligent homicide charge....

Post by **Pcgoss** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:29 am

I dunno if this was fiction or fact though... something to think about!

Post by **Barnacle Ben** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:42 pm

Fake.

Edit. This comment summed it up for me:

Sounds like a bad after school special...seems like someone would have caught wind of this accident/case before now and made a bigger stink of it before this was printed. I respectfully question the validity of the article.

And I'm not calling it 'fiction' because the author is apparently trying to pass it off as a true story, which is fucking dumb.

Post by **Saxman** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:58 pm

Post by **steep4me** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:38 pm

Plus, getting high before you climb is CHEATING (it artificially lowers one's anxiety so they can climb more efficiently). They're really big scaredy cats, until they toke

I don't climb with people who are high (I have seen stoners half way up a route when the rope falls off the harness due to the knot being only halfway tied; stoners dropping draws; stoned belayers almost decking ther climber due to spacing out etc..). No thanks!

I have no objection to people smoking in other situations though. Save it for around camp in the evenings.

That all being said, I can't believe they charged him for murder due to smoking and sandbagging. Since when are you responsible for another's decisions just because you go climbing with them? If I climb with stoned people and get dropped and injured, that's my own stupidity for climbing with that person. This indictment is a product of ignorant couch potato's perceptions

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Post by **bjdm151** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:58 pm

I might be inclined to believe that if it was written like a news article and not short fiction. If you are reporting news and not making shit up why would you change names, dates, and places.

Post by **krampus** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:08 pm

steep4me wrote:I don't climb with people who are high (I have seen stoners half way up a route when the rope falls off the harness due to the knot being only halfway tied; stoners dropping draws; stoned belayers almost decking ther climber due to spacing out etc..). No thanks!

check, check, double check and check again. If basic safety is an instinct those issues are not as prevalent.