Ah, I see two weeks have passed on this forum without any complaints about Jared Hancock's work. Time to get back to beating up on him again.
Mr. Mueller (and a few others), just how many routes have
you put up at your own expense of time and money for the enjoyment of other climbers? A huge number of climbers (most who have more sense than to post on this cesspool forum) think he's done a pretty damned good job.
robertmueller wrote:I've been a climber in the gorge for a long time ... I don't mind that Muir is laughably soft, it makes the gumbies feel all warm and fuzzy about themselves when they spray at Miguel's...
Robert, are you any different than those spraying gumbies at Miguels when you spray your righteous indignation on this forum? Different soap box, same old spray. "I'm to be listened to and respected cuz I've been around these parts since Miguel was in diapers..."
There are a helluva lot of other gorge climbers who, like you, are long in tooth who don't share your opinions. They just have better sense than to share them here.
You applied your "laughably soft" tag to Muir -- not to just a few climbs by one or two developers . Some of the respected old timers (other than yourself) with years of route development experience who have put up climbs at MV, such as Chris Martin, Eric Anderson, Tim Powers, Mike Susko, Greg Martin, Barry Brolley, Kipp Trummel, JJ, and others might take issue with your "laughably soft" critique.
As for quality grading. Hell man, they are only opinions. Yours is no more or less credible than a gumbie's.
"That old sage, Mueller, proclaims the quality of this route to be overrated. Damn. I guess I didn't have as much fun as I thought I did."
R
We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand. - Randy Pausch
None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm. - Henry David Thoreau