rope size

Post by **Josephine** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:49 am

what is the smallest size rope that will catch in a gri-gri?

i know petzl recommends nothing smaller than a 10.0 but i also know i've used it with 9.8's. i'm curious about 9.4's. is that too small?

Post by **Meadows** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:17 am

Petzl says on the following link that you can use as small as a 9.7, but extreme caution is required for anything less than 10.0.

http://en.petzl.com/ProduitsServices/GR ... 01-I_1.pdf (Choose "GB" for English)

Post by **ynot** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:19 am

To make it work with a small rope it has to be used like an atc. Why not just use the ATC and shave the weight?

Post by **chriss** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:45 am

ynot wrote:Why not just use the ATC and shave the weight?

That extra weight from the grigri kills you on the hike in.

Post by **pawilkes** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:53 am

ynot wrote:To make it work with a small rope it has to be used like an atc. Why not just use the ATC and shave the weight?

cause we're not all exclusive trad climbers and sport gear doesn't weigh that much

Post by **B.J.** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:36 am

pawilkes wrote: cause we're not all exclusive trad climbers and sport gear doesn't weigh that much

Then why the thin rope?

I ask that in ignorance because I don't climb nearly hard enough to have the weight of the rope affect me. If it's even true that such a thing occurs.

Post by **Andrew** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:45 am

I don't understand the desire for a super thin line. As heavy as I am I would wear out anything smaller than 9.8 too quickly. I have never used a thin cord and thought to myself, "wow good thing this is a 9.6 or I wouldn't have sent". I have never noticed a weight difference while climbing.

Post by **rhunt** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:48 am

I can notice a difference between say 10.5/10.2 and 9.7/9.8. Does it really make a big difference while climbing..not really for me, maybe for someone trying to redpoint 5.13/5.14. What does make a difference to me is hiking out a 70m 10.2 comparied to a 70m 9.8. Not to mention trying to fit it in my metolius first gen crag station.

personally I think anything thinner than 9.8 is not a good idea if you are sport climbing with a grigri. It just invites *potential* problems. The first time I used a 9.8 out of the package it would run throw the grigri when the grigri was fully locked. It took the whole day for the rope to sort of break-in and stop doing that.

Post by **Andrew** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:08 am

I yea, I forgot to mention that my rope is HUGE.

Post by **merrick** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:15 am

try belaying someone hangdogging and projecting a route for an hour with an atc, then try with a grigri. there is no question which one i want to use.