Fixed Gear

[climb2core]

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Interesting stance, but not realistic. Steel is somewhat better, but just prolongs the inevitable. I have never had a problem with hanging or cleaning my own gear.

[rich]

Climbing gyms generally use steel carabiners which wear less quickly and the fixed equipment is checked regularly.

The only reason to not use these outside is rust, right? Not an expert by any means

[stix]

for fucks sake. this has got to be a joke.....

[Cromper]

Ian's stirring up a good ol pot of troll stew, yummy!

[dustonian]

I think all gear should be fixed. I mean, you wouldn't want to use it if it's broken, right??

[climb2core]

Dustin and Scott, please stay out of this unless you have some more appropriate inflammatory remarks to add to the pot. Keenan was just starting to get worked up. And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

[climb2core]

rich, I think they can use stainless steel which greatly mitigates the corrosion issue. The problem is people are willing to abandon aluminum draws all over the gorge. I think I am going to start taking down all abandoned aluminum gear I happen across unless of course it is at Torrent Falls. Muir Valley and the NFS don't allow any aluminum gear to be left already.

[dustonian]

Ian Kirk, leader of Das Krue 2012... how far they have fallen...

Don't forget to annoy the good people at Miguel's by taking them there. In all seriousness though, I agree with regard to aluminum at least on popular guidebook routes.

[rich]

The only permanent gear I've come across was in Muir on Air ride equipped and Super best friends and that was a while ago, they seemed in good shape though.

[Rotarypwr345704]

Ian, what a lame attempt at getting people riled up. If you really wanna get people's knickers in a twist just mention that coffee-colored gentleman who somehow just re-elected or that German land owner just south of Roadside...