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Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:14 pm
by Clevis Hitch
Barnacle Ben wrote:
Clevis Hitch wrote:Whats to stop you from demanding that people either get a $10 day pass or a $100 a year pass?
The recreational use statute.

Correct me if I'm wrong but being a charity and collecting money part of which could be used to pay an insurance premium would make the utilization of the recreational statute unneccesary. Right?

Don't look at this like it can't be done. It can. They did it in the Gunks,right?

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:15 pm
by rhunt
maybe people just don't like you...

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:20 pm
by Clevis Hitch
rhunt wrote:maybe people just don't like you...

Hell, I like you! You can come over to my house and fuck my sister! 8)

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:41 pm
by dustonian
Clevis Hitch wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but being a charity and collecting money part of which could be used to pay an insurance premium would make the utilization of the recreational statute unneccesary. Right?

Don't look at this like it can't be done. It can. They did it in the Gunks,right?
Your high, man. The situation in the Gunks is completely different--the land has been owned by the Smiley family for generations, and in the 70s it was "gifted" to a "non-profit" organization that is really more of a tax shelter for the Mohonk Mountain House than anything... the PMRP was actually purchased by climbers via individual donations, fundraisers, the generosity of Dr. Bob, and now helped by a loan from the Access Fund. More importantly, the state laws in NY and KY are completely different regarding the recreational use statute.

Do some research before you go tilting at windmills and making wild, paranoid accusations attempting to stir up fear and mistrust. :D Show just a little respect and appreciation... the RRGCC is a highly successful grassroots climber organization and one of the first of its kind in the US... it is a model organization emulated amongst local climbing orgs nationwide. And to be honest, it would be nice if a small annual membership fee (say, $25 or $30) were required amongst climbers to cover expenses and acquire more crags, since the brunt of expenses are carried by a small percentage of us.... unfortunately (or fortunately for you), KY law makes this difficult to implement.

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:14 pm
by Clevis Hitch
So what you are saying is that you don't want any say in what goes on in the PMRP. That its impossible for a clever lawyer to turn the PMRP into a money-maker. You just stated in your idiotic post that it can't happen here because the CC is a non-profit. Then you give an example of how a non-profit was used as a tax shelter to make what you said couldn't happen here, happen there! WTF man think about what you are saying...


So when the CC finally does become a voter-influenced organization feel free to not vote seeing as how you think the Titanic is sailing along just fine...

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:17 pm
by dustonian
Clevis Hitch wrote:You just stated in your idiotic post that it can't happen here because the CC is a non-profit.
False. Try reading.

Go to meetings if you are truly worried about this and stop wasting your time on here. :D

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:34 pm
by milspecmark
I dont mean to interupt but.....I realy would like to hear about what happened to the car bandits and how they got thumped.

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:02 pm
by Andrew
yea me too

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:01 pm
by Clevis Hitch
milspecmark wrote:I dont mean to interupt but.....I realy would like to hear about what happened to the car bandits and how they got thumped.
o.k. there was this guy see... and he was up to no good...

nah, just ask me in person and I'll tell you the story... :mrgreen:

Re: Question for the CC

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:07 pm
by Clevis Hitch
well, is that it? No more? Everybody all done? No more questions, no more answers?