pigsteak wrote:Clevis Hitch wrote:pigsteak wrote:name a single time the coalition has declined your help clevis. one time. use the energy for some good..it really is that easy. I promise.
Ask Driskel smart guy. I think I have the PM's still in my in box.
guess I did..looks like we have our answer....which is where the young dudes say......
o snap!
Oh yeah, one more thing. I volunteered to build and maintain self contained non-efluvium emmiting toilets in the PMRP(completely legal). I actually checked into renting port-a-potties and its about $800 a month a piece which is too much! So I volunteered to take care of the problem. What happened, well that would be nothing... I don't know if the CC has some sort of plan to do something (I doubt it) or if its just because I put my name on it. So blah blah blah. Talk all your shit about how I don't do anything or I don't contribute to the community and I don't volunteer. I've got plenty of time and things that I do in the S.R. that you don't even know about. Like staking out the parking lots with six other locals and thumping the fuck out of the asshole who was breaking into cars in the S.R. so you could park your prius and not get your "whole foods" lunch stolen! I don't believe you were there piggie. I put in over thirty hours in three days doing it.
Also on tuesday when you retards were sitting in your offices busting my balls about how I never did anything or volunteered. I had to cut our "computer time" short because me and my partner were going to cave fork and clearing roads so you don't get "kentucky pinstripes" down the side of your tofu car.
When you walk to solar collector. when you step across the marsh. Realize I'm the one who split those chunks of stove wood so you could walk across it with out getting your "approach shoes" wet.
When you go to cross the creek by the kiosk at the head of the trail for solar. When you go down those steps. Realize you are walking on steps that I placed. And that "bridge" that you step on to cross the creek. Dr. Bob built it and Morgan Sprauge showed up to move it but they couldn't even lift it. So it was me and my crew who placed it. I showed up with more people on accident than what the CC could muster on purpose!
You like making fun of me because I have a big truck and have lived a blue collar life but I'll tell you what I can do, that you can't. I can haul 2 1/2 ton of gravel. I can pick up my long handled shovel ( I have three different kinds) or my spud bar (you probably don't even know what that is) or my maddox and I can move earth or fill in *edited* or what ever I need to do. I can pick up my chain saw and cut fire wood and pick up my ax and split it for the fire pit at miguels and make your evening that much better. Little bit of wine, nice fire....
With my big truck I can pull a tofu car out of a ditch sideways but most of the time I can just drive your car out because 90% of you don't know how to drive on gravel (how do you get stuck on gravel, I mean its fucking gravel!) And I have done this time and again. I'll hear reports of the Lode hill being in bad shape and I go there and drive peoples cars out for them because they lack the skill set to do so. I'll drive one out and my wife will follow and run me back down the hill to drive the next out. The whole time she'll fuss at me telling me how I'm stupid for doing it because if one of their cars fucks up down the road they'll try to blame me and make me pay for it and that they don't appreciate what I'm doing anyway. But I do it anyway.
Thats not to mention my bolting. I bolt routes. I don't get first ascents. I take kids who are into climbing and let them get the first ascents. Some of the climbs that I bolt are above my grade. I still get a thrill out of watching one of my "projects" go down. The ones that I can climb, often I'll get the second ascent on.
In closing I'd like to say this. I live in Lee county. I was born in Montgomery county. To say I'm local means to say that If I'm not working out of the county or driving to Lexington for school. Then thats where I am. My Home county. So when you sit in your office in Lexington or Cincinnati and tell me how I'm not a local, that shits' funny.
I've got a lot of energy and tools and the knowledge of how to use them. I've got the time, too. There is a lot of things that I'd like to see done in the S.R.. I just don't want to contribute all of this actual work to the PMRP/RRGCC and see it taken away, or privatized or sold-off.
You say it can't be sold, I say bullshit. Charities sell off their assets all the time. The CC isn't a land trust, Its about access. You could make up some bullshit to sell it off...like say putting "covenants and restrictions" on the title of the land that you sell to preserve access for climbers. Hence, access is intact and you can take the money to expand the "empire". Or how about setting it up like the Gunks and making the board positions paid positions. With out a way to redress or recall. The CC can finagle their way into anything.
That being said, I said all of that, to say this. Keep the appointed members of the board. Then make new seats for the same number of elected positions. Have the President vote only to break a tie. The appointed positions would have a majority in the event of a tie because of the presidential vote. All the appointed members would have to do is load their side with "yesmen" and you'd have your way every time.
Do something similar or dissimilar, just make regular climbers have a say in their assets.
Oh yeah, Meadows. You said you'd buy a six-pack for the people who stopped the break ins. Majic hat no.9 is a favorite of mine. They carry it at C. and S.
