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damn, I just pulled a tick off my ankle and it I don't know where it went. The little shit is loose in my room somewhere. I sure could use some tick spray.

marathonmedic wrote:It's one thing to leave marks as a consequence of using the rock and enjoying it. Sitting in your harness and placing white scars on every possible hold to help you grunt, piss, and swear past a move is totally different. You're obviously "climbing" beyond your limit. It starts as someone just ticking the good hold, but soon someone comes by and tics ALL of the holds. I was working the start of Imaculate Deception last year and there were over 20 ticked footholds for the left foot BEFORE the first bolt! If that's you, use your stickclip to TR the section and move on instead of deluding yourself into thinking you "figured it out".

Scar the rock. If you feel so strongly, I hope your not using chalk. What makes you think someone is climbing past their limits if they are ticking holds. Lets not confuse others with yourself here. Hell, last week I ticked holds on a route while I onsighted it, so my partner wouuld not miss key holds that I did. But once again, I will pm you that list of routes with tick marks so you can go brush them off. No reason to keep pushing your ethics onto others.

Sorry to hear you were not able to do immaculate deception because all the tick marks messed you up. Maybe If your lucky we will get a heavy rain so you can go back for the send .

I really think pigsteak got it right.

pigsteak wrote:yawn...yawn...YAWN....

tick marks are visual pollution, nothing more, nothing less. their use does not lessen your climbing experience any more than your barking dog lessens mine. everytime I drive to roadside and see 15-20 cars parked there, I ponder how many carbon neutral tree huggers in the group car pooled? when I deal with the trash left at the base, your pack thrown on more vegetation, and your piss smell just out of reach of my nostrils, I dream of only having tick marks to ruin my day.

if you hate tick marks, then brush them. and don't forget to always have 4 people in your gas guzzling car. and for god's sake , quit drinking beer cause recycling those glass bottles is spewing poison on mother earth.

if you hate tick marks, then brush them. and don't forget to always have 4 people in your gas guzzling car. and for god's sake , quit drinking beer cause recycling those glass bottles is spewing poison on mother earth - so sayeth the pig.

that's wht we drink bourbon and shoot the bottle.
so are you going to start pushing the bolts in by hand while your blinbfolded piggie? hell climbing on bolts is climbing over your head.

my main issue with the tick marks is they look like a bird poop machine gun went off. yes we all impact in some way but does that mean we need to impact "more?"
just a statement. if you are that pissed over your sweet little tick marks maybe something in you knows better.

Chriss has a (now) typical climber mentality, expecting others to clean up after him.

If you are ticking, you should be brushing, too. Hell, if you are hanging, you should be brushing.

Pru wrote:Chriss has a (now) typical climber mentality, expecting others to clean up after him.

If I want to tick a hold I will tick a hold, if I want to use chalk I will (and I always brush holds while hanging). People are kidding themselves if they think tickmarks are more impact than chalk. Hell, do you think a nonclimber can tell the difference.

Expecting others to clean up after me? Thats a funny assumption to make just because I don't see any problem with tick marks. Should I assume your a typical ignorant person, not taking any time to stop and think?

People are always trying to tell you what you should do, what type of car you should drive, how you should act, .... If you see someone leave trash behind tell them to pick it up, but trying to tell people how they should climb, don't do that.

No one is telling you not to use tickmarks, jackass. They are telling you to clean up after yourself when you do. Simple.

Pru wrote:No one is telling you not to use tickmarks, jackass. They are telling you to clean up after yourself when you do. Simple.

everything i ever remember reading or being told about the outdoors, (not just climbing) was to leave it as is. how YOU FOUND it. chalk is a (necessary) evil even though i have seen many a hardperson crush without it. if a tick mark wasn't there BEFORE you and you add a tick. REMOVE it. if we can't do away with chalk, bolts, dogs, bullshit websites, and those on them.....whatever. but WE do have a chance to lessen our impact. all i ask is for people to remove their/other's tick marks. it's not a tough thing to do. brush the holds while your at it for extra points.

fuck it. all climbers are selfish, wasteful, stupid, holier-than-thou, loud mouth, "i know what's better!" fuckstick pricks. all of us deserve what we get. our land and our rights should be taken from us because we're just going to fuck it up anyway. tick everything, cut down trees so we can find the cliffs, rape trad climbers, and burn down miguels. what's it matter. someone else has to suffer.
have a nice day.

Somebody please give JR his meds.

Pru wrote:No one is telling you not to use tickmarks, jackass. They are telling you to clean up after yourself when you do. Simple.

Resorting to name calling ( hmmm what type of assumptions should I make about you.) But I guess that what people do when they don't have a valid point to make, or their rash assumptions where imcorrect.

anticlmber wrote: everything i ever remember reading or being told about the outdoors, (not just climbing) was to leave it as is. how YOU FOUND it. chalk is a (necessary) evil even though i have seen many a hardperson crush without it. if a tick mark wasn't there BEFORE you and you add a tick. REMOVE it.

If you feel so strongly you shouldn't be using chalk, sticky rubber (leaves black on the rock), sport climbing or anchors of any kind. Are you sure you don't like climbing in the gym more than outside????

Anyhow, the reason I usually don't remove tick marks, if I don't send I want it there for when I come back, the route has fixed draws and the steepness makes it a hassle to get back in, I forget. But feel free to remove them, I know I do when I get on routes (maybe I should whine about it on the internet).

Really though, if this is an impact you can't handle, don't use chalk. It's that simple.