Page 5 of 5

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:18 pm
by Artsay
Great comments Tom! Thanks for your input!

A couple clarifications, though...
tomdarch wrote:Actually the 'pro' version of Sketchup has a pretty cool 'text tag' tool that is fairly 'intelligent' at locating the text tag so that it stays readable from a lot of angles. The problem is that 'Sketchup Pro' is $500!
The text tag isn't intelligent enough, unfortunately. The true power of labels is to keep them from overlapping other labels dynamically as you pan and zoom and, unfortunately, Sketchup Pro isn't capable of that.
tomdarch wrote: Again, SU Pro can read/write formats like .dwg and .dxf, so that gives you a way to get vector data in from GIS/CAD. But you would find that if you tried to model a fairly large area of the Red in Sketchup, it would bog down pretty quickly - all those 'organic' contours and clifflines mean a lot of polygons! But as computers get better and the application gets better, that is an awesome goal!
The problem isn't importing the data but keeping the spatial relationships. SketchUp creates in model space and uses 3D projections, not map projections. So you can bring in multiple datasets but the features will fall directly on top of each other instead of retaining their relative distances from one another.

As time moves on technology is eventually going to migrate 3D modeling and GIS into a friendlier interoperable platform. Hell, Microsoft just released Virtual Earth 3D tonight! This is big news for GIS techies. The race is on!

Screen capture of Microsoft's new Virtual Earth 3D
Image

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:30 pm
by the lurkist
that is the best guide book innovation I have ever seen! totally fresh.
It looks like it is oriented North to South accurately (from the shadows.)
Rad...

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:22 am
by tomdarch
the lurkist wrote:that is the best guide book innovation I have ever seen! totally fresh.
It looks like it is oriented North to South accurately (from the shadows.)
Rad...
duh! I'm sure Artsay had already thought of this, but several generations down the line, these cliffline models could be used to predict which routes will be in the sun/shade on a given day at a given time!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:06 am
by the lurkist
That would be an innovation. You go to an online guide, click on a cliff, enter the time of day, day, month and year that you would be there, and it the site guide demonstrates the sun exposure on the cliff. Talk about interactive. Like you said, I am sure Artsey is way out in front.

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:31 am
by chouca
Hi Michelle,

the wall looks cool in 3D.

Is it possible to add the parking and approach as well?

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:40 pm
by Artsay
chouca wrote:Hi Michelle,

the wall looks cool in 3D.

Is it possible to add the parking and approach as well?
Hey Sebastian,

Yea, I can add them but it's a little more work. I'll eventually get there after I get the walls done. Throw the imagery on there and craggin' can't get much easier!

Michelle

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:46 pm
by alfredo
Here's a really cool website, just like google earth but with a good 3-D rendition:

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2& ... ne=1732930

Michelle - any progress on the 3-D walls? I love the first one you did.

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:36 pm
by Artsay
Unfortunately, I haven't made any progress on the 3D maps because I've been making 2D maps for the entire gorge. But it's definitely in the future!

Microsoft Virtual Earth rules.
Here's a screen shot I posted awhile back. Ooooohhhh...eye candy....

Image