Miller Fork

[ynp1]

Thanks pig! Now that was an a very useful post with great information in it. Good luck to you and all you developing out there, I am sure it will be great!

[clif]

so, is the road off 11 north of the ashland camp loop road and between the ashland road endpoints usable as an approach/parking?

[dustonian]

Look at the map. We don't own that land and there is no parking area there. There is a tract of WMA there (hunting only), but the majority of the rock that far northwest is not within MFRP. You could probably park off 11 and bushwhack into the Miller Fork drainage but I wouldn't recommend it.

[clif]

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[clif]

should i try the hell creek spur?

[dustonian]

Driving up the main drainage on hell creek rd is the only "legitimate" access point. Try not to get stuck, and as Kipp said have 4wd... I also recommend comprehensive insurance.

[Andrew]

A subaru will get you in, to a certain point, if the water is low, but you will probably occasionally bottom out. A real 4wd is recommended with decent clearance. Also pay attention to the weather report for the day. If the weather calls for potential pop up storms you may not want to drive in. The creek is deep enough when there is no rain and becomes impassable (unless you have a mega rig with snorkel) after even short stints of heavy rain. You would be stuck in there for a while as one day we parked short and on the way out waded waist deep in fast moving current. Don't know many vehicles that can go through waist deep water.

Lastly don't smash the side of your vehicle against a tree when your tire goes in a pot hole. Good luck.

[clif]

gentlemen, thank you.

it sounds like there will need to be an alternative in the years to come

[Cromper]

Lastly don't smash the side of your vehicle against a tree when your tire goes in a pot hole. Good luck.

Ass 8)

[clif]

some walls (under serenity point for example) are "closed" for good reason. the top has been clear cut and there are dozens of 1,000 pound widow makers just waiting to kill someone at the base. Ray and I were there last week and one 50 foot (at least) dead tree literally rolled off the top

Speaking of amazing well planned out trails, who the hell planned out the muddy slip and slide up to the serenity point walls?

It'll work with adding a bunch of stone steps

if the widow makers are stones sounds like a fun job, or chainsawed stumps (loose?)?