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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:09 pm
by charlie
I seriously doubt there were any purely bolted routes in the gorge in the 70's. I found no mention of bolted routes in Hackworth's '84 guide, but definite discussion in the 1990 second edition.

I <3 wikipedia......
The system was initially developed as the Sierra Club grading system in the 1930s to rate hikes and climbs in the Sierra Nevada range. Previously, hikes and climbs were described relative to others ("harder than X, but easier than Y"), but this made it difficult for those who hadn't done the other hikes or climbs to compare climbs, so the numerical grading system was developed to codify climbs on a single scale.

Currently, according to the climbing textbook Mountaineering: The Freedom of the Hills, the system divides all hikes and climbs into five classes:

* Class 1: Hiking.
* Class 2: Simple scrambling, with possible occasional use of the hands.
* Class 3: Scrambling, a rope can be carried but is usually not required.
* Class 4: Simple climbing, with exposure. A rope is often used. Natural protection can be easily found. Falls may well be fatal.
* Class 5: Technical free climbing. Climbing involves rope, belaying, and other protection hardware for safety.

The original Sierra Club grading system also had a Class 6, for artificial, or aid climbing. This sort of climbing uses ropes and other equipment for progress (e.g. climbing a rope up a sheer face with no holds). Class 6 is no longer widely used, however, and artificial climbs today are graded on a separate scale from A0 through A5.

Note that the exact definition of the classes is somewhat controversial [1].

The increasing technical difficulty of Class 5 climbs led to the same relative-grading problem that had caused the initial development of the system; as a result, Class 5 was subdivided in the 1950s. Initially it was based on ten climbs of Tahquitz Rock in Idyllwild, California, and ranged from "the Trough" at 5.0, a relatively modest technical climb, to "the Open Book" at 5.9, considered at the time the most difficult unaided climb humanly possible. This system was developed by members of the Rock Climbing Section of the Angeles Chapter of the Sierra Club.[1]

Advances in techniques and equipment since then have led to harder climbs being completed. The first such climb was given the rating 5.10; the second the rating 5.11. It was later determined that the 5.11 climb was much harder than 5.10, leaving many climbs of varying difficulty bunched up at 5.10. To solve this, the scale has been further subdivided above the 5.9 mark with a-d suffixes. As of 2005, several climbs are widely agreed to be at the 5.15a difficulty. Akira, by Fred Rouhling, has been claimed as a 9b (French grade) which translates to 5.15b. Chilam Balam by Bernabé Fernández was graded as 9b+/5.15c. Both are controversial.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:54 pm
by Pru
bolting didn't take off in this part of the country until the '80's IIRC

Damn, many of you could have still been aborted at that time.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:55 pm
by anticlmber
you can still be aborted to you know??

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:55 pm
by Pru
mid to late 80's at the NRG anyway

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:56 pm
by Pru
anticlmber wrote:you can still be aborted to you know??
I've got a coat hanger with your name on it, junior

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:57 pm
by anticlmber
i've got one down my pee hole already. i don't think it's working.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:04 pm
by Pru
I'll help you with that next time I see you

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:57 pm
by pigsteak
man am I getting senile..I was thinking about Sherman's scalew, not the YDS...disregard this open mouthed idiot.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:01 pm
by anticlmber
yeah, nothing better than making a baby and aborting it at the same time.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:01 pm
by Pru
pigsteak wrote:disregard this open mouthed idiot.
That really should be your sig line

:P