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I have a pair of the Five Ten Camp Four approach shoes. They were broke in out of the box. They have been the most comfortable and non-blistering pair of approach shoes I have ever had. Great for hauling heavy loads several miles with scrambling involved. I would get a less bulky shoe if the approaches were shorter and easier. But if you haul all your crap way into the back country then they are very nice and can climb easy stuff.

The Evolv Cruzer is my current favorite approach shoe: http://voices.yahoo.com/evolv-cruzer-ap ... tml?cat=11

La Sportiva Boulder X is a good shoe. It's stiffer than the Cruzer though, so for your smeary purposes I'd go with the Cruzer.

I've got a pair of five ten's water tennies for boating, and they're pretty good. I bet that the guide tennie would suit you alright.

Hey, thanks for the recommendations to all along with the expected red river banter!

Think I tried on most of the available approach shoes out there. I ended up getting the scarpa gecko guide.....pricey at $189.00 retail but it is nice to know people in the business. You pay a bit more for an Italian shoe but the fit is worth it. I plan on using these for short slickrock approaches 5 class rock and easy boulder problems. For longer approaches I'll stick to light hikers.

http://www.urbanclimbermag.com/themag/g ... ndex2.html


I know it is too late, but thought I would share...

kneebar wrote:I love it, ask a legitimate question and whole bunch of higher then thou, I've done it all, crawl up onto my environmental, save the world soapbox "climbers" give there opinions. Mostly other then just answering the question if they can. Well worth the entertainment value and exactly what was expected.

And just what the hell are you contributing with this comment? You aren't answering the original question... hypocrite.

Was in Joshua Tree for the first time this past spring, and it seemed the 5.10 Guide Tennies were hip among the masses. With the nature of the climbing, tons of people would wear them on the approach (all 2 minutes of it) and then just climb in them. I doubt that a shoe like that would function athat well here

THB wrote:

kneebar wrote:I love it, ask a legitimate question and whole bunch of higher then thou, I've done it all, crawl up onto my environmental, save the world soapbox "climbers" give there opinions. Mostly other then just answering the question if they can. Well worth the entertainment value and exactly what was expected.

And just what the hell are you contributing with this comment? You aren't answering the original question... hypocrite.

If I would have known the answer to the original question (that i asked) why would I have asked it in the first place?

kneebar wrote:

THB wrote:

kneebar wrote:I love it, ask a legitimate question and whole bunch of higher then thou, I've done it all, crawl up onto my environmental, save the world soapbox "climbers" give there opinions. Mostly other then just answering the question if they can. Well worth the entertainment value and exactly what was expected.

And just what the hell are you contributing with this comment? You aren't answering the original question... hypocrite.

If I would have known the answer to the original question (that i asked) why would I have asked it in the first place?

Ok, so I'm a dumb ass... I retract my statement, "You aren't answering the original question"

But seriously, why would you ask a question and then belittle the people that are responding... if you didn't want climbers to get up on the "soapbox" and give their fucking opinions about a question which has no right or wrong answers, but only opinions to give, then why ask it in the first place...

Next time, don't even bother asking the question if you are going to bitch about free advice.



p.s. - kneebar's are cheating.......... and lame.

Sorry I have offended your tender skin, it's all in fun, however if you can't recognize my intent and I have somehow belittled you I sincerely apologize.

IMO, (you obviously respect that by your previous posts right?) Kneebars are cool by the way, if you dont use them don't, no different then any other skill. Is using a hand jam on a sport route or crimping on a splitter crack cheating also? Pushing your climbing "ethic" by attempting to belittle others is done to inflate ones ego, the very definition of "lame". It's just rock climbing dude, we are not saving babies in Africa.

Now that the thread is derailed we may as well continue.