IMPACT on Muir of KY HW 715 Rerouting

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ems
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Post by ems »

Could someone explain to me why 715 needs to be rerouted in the first place?
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Post by pkananen »

I just received an email back from (Charles) David Martin:

[quote="David Martin"]Thank you for your concern about this planning study. The Kentucky Transportation Cabinet (KYTC) continually strives to avoid and minimize impacts to sensitive areas such as the Muir Valley Nature Preserve. Additionally, with the state’s current budget situation, it is highly possible that any new alignments in this area may not be feasible both from a construction cost standpoint along with the associated potential adverse environmental impacts.

With so many roadway needs throughout the state, KYTC is looking to improve its current roadway network through its “Practical Solutionsâ€
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Post by Wes »

ems wrote:Could someone explain to me why 715 needs to be rerouted in the first place?
Have you ever tried to ride a bike on that stretch of road? Ever been nearly run over by a big simi-truck while trying to pull into/out of Miguel's/Beer Trailer/Roadside/Global Village/Torrent/RRO? So, while I think that losing even a small part of Muir would really, really suck (and not in a good way), the idea of moving truck traffic of of 715 is a great idea all around, that will benefit climbers and others, and also maybe save a life or two. Those of you that camp at Miguel's won't have to listen to jake brakes all night, or early in the am, you won't have to scream at your belayer while climbing at torrent if a truck goes by, etc.

So, I haven't really looked at all the options, but maybe when you all are writing your letters, the options that preserve Muir, and still move the truck traffic should be the one you support.
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Post by camhead »

Wes wrote:
ems wrote:Could someone explain to me why 715 needs to be rerouted in the first place?
Have you ever tried to ride a bike on that stretch of road? Ever been nearly run over by a big simi-truck while trying to pull into/out of Miguel's/Beer Trailer/Roadside/Global Village/Torrent/RRO? So, while I think that losing even a small part of Muir would really, really suck (and not in a good way), the idea of moving truck traffic of of 715 is a great idea all around, that will benefit climbers and others, and also maybe save a life or two. Those of you that camp at Miguel's won't have to listen to jake brakes all night, or early in the am, you won't have to scream at your belayer while climbing at torrent if a truck goes by, etc.

So, I haven't really looked at all the options, but maybe when you all are writing your letters, the options that preserve Muir, and still move the truck traffic should be the one you support.
I might be a bit confused at your reasons, Wes, but isn't the road you are talking about route 11, not 715?
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Post by Wes »

camhead wrote:
Wes wrote:
ems wrote:Could someone explain to me why 715 needs to be rerouted in the first place?
Have you ever tried to ride a bike on that stretch of road? Ever been nearly run over by a big simi-truck while trying to pull into/out of Miguel's/Beer Trailer/Roadside/Global Village/Torrent/RRO? So, while I think that losing even a small part of Muir would really, really suck (and not in a good way), the idea of moving truck traffic of of 715 is a great idea all around, that will benefit climbers and others, and also maybe save a life or two. Those of you that camp at Miguel's won't have to listen to jake brakes all night, or early in the am, you won't have to scream at your belayer while climbing at torrent if a truck goes by, etc.

So, I haven't really looked at all the options, but maybe when you all are writing your letters, the options that preserve Muir, and still move the truck traffic should be the one you support.
I might be a bit confused at your reasons, Wes, but isn't the road you are talking about route 11, not 715?
Yep. But, I think the goal of rerouting/improving 715, is so they can move traffic off of 11. Again, I might not be fully up to date on everything, but that is my understanding of the overall goal. A lot has to do with the State Park and the small Biz on 11.
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Post by Meadows »

The project goals are listed in this document: http://planning.kytc.ky.gov/projects/pr ... 0Goals.pdf
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Post by jordancolburn »

I got the same email back too. Very quick response, and it shows they're at least paying attention.
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Post by woodchuck008 »

I'm writing a REAL letter, on letterhead and all that as sometimes paper ones to present at meetings hold a bit more influence than e-letters. Can't imagine how they would even consider this. If anything, just widen spots, improve intersections and slow down that 55 limit around those curves please.
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Post by Wes »

Meadows wrote:The project goals are listed in this document: http://planning.kytc.ky.gov/projects/pr ... 0Goals.pdf
Cool, thanks! I don't see much about plans for 11 there, but to me, it seems crazy to reroute/rebuild 715 when 11 is already a big enough road to handle the traffic to/from the parkway. But, if they extended scenic roadway status to 11 from the parkway to just past the beer trailer, then the trucks would have to go the 715 route. And, that is one of the points of Hal Rodgers campaign, according to Liz's post a bit back.
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woodchuck008 wrote:I'm writing a REAL letter, on letterhead and all that as sometimes paper ones to present at meetings hold a bit more influence than e-letters.
Do both! Shows just how concerned you are to make sure the letter arrives. Maybe they'll count it twice. :wink:
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