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Re: Jesus H

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:45 pm
by clif
this discussion is remarkable.

climbers are still bold. it takes some fortitude of spirit to run out on some level of detail using logic as one's brace against objective hazard when the quest is BELIEF and GOD. good for everyone.

apparently, from Bill O'Reilly's premium website:

Okay, how did the Moon get there? How'd the Moon get there? Look, you pinheads who attacked me for this, you guys are just desperate. How'd the Moon get there? How'd the Sun get there? How'd it get there? Can you explain that to me? How come we have that and Mars doesn't have it? Venus doesn't have it. How come? Why not? How'd it get here?

from one of America's leading opinion makers. he's right of course. ultimately, matter exists (thus the unicorn theory). therefore, god. belief might as well be irrelevant in this linguistic construction. whatever is being argued in all of this, i'm left wondering what else, if anything, is required if god is not synonymous with matter? it may be useful to point out that though unicorns don't exist, ideas about them do.

but, beware the kentucky sasquatch at your own peril.

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:23 pm
by ynp1
pointless reply...

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:05 am
by clif
ynp1, yeah, i confess. i've not read that book (godless?, whatev pig is reading) and the agnostic v. atheist etc. etc. ... makes the same/similar point as you've implied earlier.

elaboration nor jargon are required.

i think political control plays an enormous role, perhaps predominant. subsuming one's identity to forces one can't rationally refute undermines initiative. also a well established idea among certain groups. whatever.

i can't believe you're going to back out now.

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:27 am
by bcombs
ynp1 wrote:pointless reply...
Could you link me to the one's that aren't? Save me some time.

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:41 am
by ynp1
bcombs... that is not a bad point you make.

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:26 am
by caribe
Positing god to answer the question about how and when matter came to be is illogical. You are left with two more puzzling questions in the form of either
- how and when god came to be?
or if god was always
- How does god sit around from NEGATIVE INFINITY till now and on lark just start creating everything?
The first question is not answerable because god is beyond the physical and the second question is not tenable. When all is said and done, god is not an answer to anything.

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:15 am
by clif
wtf. what makes you think logic has anything to do with it?

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:04 pm
by krampus
bcombs wrote:
ynp1 wrote:pointless reply...
Could you link me to the one's that aren't? Save me some time.
just look for the ones that say "krampus" in the upper left corner

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:35 pm
by bcombs
:lol: Nice!

Re: Jesus H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:32 pm
by Clevis Hitch
do you believe in me. Do you believe I exist? I'm not in front of you. Is it possible that a being (I'm a being,to) can exist and not be seen?