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Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:02 am
by JR
dustonian wrote:sure, but I'm talking from a climber's perspective. They are just two different animals: like alpinism, real (ground-up) trad climbing is by nature full of risk, uncontrollable objective hazards, and personal commitment/responsibility. Sport climbing by contrast is about athleticism and beautiful gymnastic movement, and if bolted well most of the risk is engineered out and under the climber's control (given a good belayer & well-maintained equipment). Sure the end result may look the same, but you asked what the difference is, and in climbing style and process are everything.
I wouldn't call this a climber's perspective. I would call it a
trad climbers perspective.
Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:21 am
by pigsteak
why would trad climbers think sport climbing is full of beautiful gymnastic climbing?
traddies think sportos are wieners...sportos think traddies are lazy.
Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:13 am
by dustonian
Yeah, it would hardly be accurate to call myself a trad climber anymore the way things are goin these days....the sport is just too good here and trad is, well, pretty average for the most part... but to me anyway, "climbing" means doing both.
Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:17 am
by louisville_climber
dustonian wrote:... but to me anyway, "climbing" means doing both.
agree.
Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:03 pm
by CLIMBTRAD
dustonian wrote:Yeah, it would hardly be accurate to call myself a trad climber anymore the way things are goin these days....the sport is just too good here and trad is, well, pretty average for the most part... but to me anyway, "climbing" means doing both.
agreed
Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:27 am
by Clevis Hitch
I put two sport lines in next to Iron man. One starts off of the same first pitch anchors and the other is going to pull through a small roof to gain a ledge then pound on to another set of anchors. BTW the first pitch is a free solo and comes in around 5.2
Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:41 pm
by Clevis Hitch
legal.
Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:56 pm
by Andrew
I am pretty sure that the cliff is legal.
Re: I gotta spray...
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:31 pm
by rjackson
Andrew wrote:I am pretty sure that the cliff is legal.
+1