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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:18 pm
by powell.se
I left (well not left, it was pretty stuck) a yellow trango cam on Double Caves Crack on Lower Small Wall a few weeks ago.
If you got it out and would like to return her, please PM me. If not I'm sure karma will cause a big rock will fall on your head, killing you instantly; then your friends will end up splitting all of your gear.
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:07 pm
by MacGyver
Danny, ahab, well done. I like it.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:00 am
by Jrodan
Why would you find my cam, tell me about it, and then tell me you won't give it back? There's no reason to wave it in my face like that. As for it belonging to you now, I have placed and fallen on that piece repeatedly for the past several years. If use is what determines ownership, don't feel so entitled. Obviously it's up to you though.
I didn't tick the climb because I didn't climb it. As I said, it was borrowed from my rack. Who pays for it isn't the issue. I was just hoping someone would give it back if they knew whose it was. Luckily I didn't have high expectations.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:18 pm
by rhunt
The booty gods have spoken, it was michaelarmand's birthday after all...
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:53 am
by michaelarmand
Jordan –
I apologize if my post came across as antagonistic, that was not my intent. I just felt inclined to provide a response to your post as opposed to ignoring you.
In all my years of climbing booty is booty and it’s finders keepers. That said, I am told you are great guy and I don’t want to feud over this. I even received a love letter from someone who appears to think I stole the cam from your pack, kicked your dog, and now force you live in a tent while slaving in Miguel’s kitchen.
I am a bit stubborn – and I think it does matter who pays for the cam. You shouldn’t. Those who borrowed it and left it in the crack should. If your friend won’t replace the cam then call them out so we all know who not to loan our rack to – and I will replace the cam as a favor to you.
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:56 pm
by kidney_dave
armando is seemingly reasonable enough!!!! and yeah, i would like to know who left a cam in a crack so i know NEVER to loan that *insert expletive here* person any of my gear...
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:48 am
by Jrodan
I posted the question to see if someone had found the piece and wanted to give it back. Since they didn't, the person who borrowed the cam replaced it for me. I didn't want to make a public issue of it. I was just hoping no one would have to buy a new cam because of a simple mistake. No one was seriously at fault and I don't want to blame anyone.
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:12 am
by charlie
Your magnanimity is unnerving.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:08 pm
by pkananen
http://mountainproject.com/v/lost_and_f ... _106219484
"I was at Lumpy this weekend and a bunch of chalk blew out of my chalkbag. There were some pretty big chunks so if you find them will you please return them to me. Thanks so much!"
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:13 pm
by Jrodan
I just wikipedia'd magnamity. It's good to know that even though Goodguy now has to buy me a $60 cam, we can all gain a bit of knowledge from the whole ordeal. So please, anyone living, as I was, in ignorance of magnanimity and it's lesser known anti-thesis, "pusillanimity", read below.
Magnanimity (derived from the Latin roots magn- great, and anima, soul) is the virtue of being great of mind and heart. It encompasses, usually, a refusal to be petty, a willingness to face danger, and actions for noble purposes. Its antithesis is pusillanimity. Both terms were coined by Aristotle, who called magnanimity "the crowning virtue."