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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:17 pm
by clif
yeah....so i've been trying for months to read through this thread and just can't do it. was it explained why, if placing gear is no harder than clipping bolts, one would want to bolt cracks?

thanks.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:15 am
by 45percent
clif wrote:yeah....so i've been trying for months to read through this thread and just can't do it.
Keep working at it. I know some people use big words, but just sound them out.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:27 am
by L K Day
clif wrote:yeah....so i've been trying for months to read through this thread and just can't do it. was it explained why, if placing gear is no harder than clipping bolts, one would want to bolt cracks?

thanks.
No, it was not explained. Because they're being duplicitous. :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:27 am
by 512OW
It was explained in the very beginning. Because then all the trad fags wouldn't have an excuse why they only climb 5.9 anymore. They'd all quit.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:33 pm
by clif
so the idea is to bolt cracks to thin out the crowd?

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:14 pm
by pigsteak
clif wrote:so the idea is to bolt cracks to thin out the crowd?

nooooooo........the idea is to quit giving people excuses for sucking.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:22 pm
by DriskellHR
SO whats your new excuse piggy :twisted:

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:23 pm
by ahab
512OW wrote:It was explained in the very beginning. Because then all the trad fags wouldn't have an excuse why they only climb 5.9 anymore. They'd all quit.
what about those who swing both ways, AC/DCs?

Re: Bolt the cracks and stop hiding...

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:59 pm
by clif
512OW wrote: its NO MORE DIFFICULT
pigsteak wrote: quit giving people excuses for sucking
thanks--i think i'm starting to at least see the genius here, i may never understand....

to summarize: in making an exchange of no difference (or of even diminished difficulty) people will stop sucking.

yes, we need more windmills in the red.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:59 pm
by 512OW
clif...

The traddies use "the difficulty of placing gear" as an excuse for why cracks are harder. If we bolt them, that excuse goes away. The grades won't change for 98% of climbs, but then the traddies won't even be able to get up 5.10 BOLTED cracks, so they'll have to stop hiding behind their suck.