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amen, my sweet sister. Your words honor Johnny's memory. I hope everyone else will try to do the same.

Cliff - If you, in fact, are not jimmydean, then I apologize for making you feel attacked or threatened in anyway. That was not my intention. You just must know that there are many clues that point you to be that poster and that poster used Johnny's name to hurt people, both here and on the rrgcc's site. I think that is awful.

Thanks 88keys, I swore I was not going to open this thread again, much less post on it, then I saw you posted. Your words were needed and I hope people listen.

As a community we need to learn to set petty personal differences aside and look at the big picture. I think the RRGCC members, BOD and even people against the RRGCC need to look at how other orgs such as the SCC work together and what they get accomplished. Whether we like it or want to admit it, we need an organized group to help protect the environment and the recreation we all love. I hope we can all pull together and make the RRGCC a positive player with the land managers and the climbing community in general.

This kind of thread happens every time someone brings up the RRGCC or any of its members. This thread was not attacking the RRGCC in general, but to an outsider like a beginning climber, a traveling climber, land managers or the local business members it looks like it is. If we cant pull together as a group how do we expect anyone from the outside to take us serious or want to work with us ? There is only so much private land to climb on.

Curmudgeon wrote: PPS ... you would be surprised at the number of people
at "Valvoline" that pull down hard ...

yes, i would be VERY surprised.

Artsay wrote:Cliff - If you, in fact, are not jimmydean, then I
apologize for making you feel attacked or threatened in anyway.

Apology accepted. I talked with Tina and assured her that in no way was
I connected with any slandering of John's name. We had a nice chat after
so many years. Thanks for helping out.

...and so it goes... As The World Turns...

Wow, the world is full of pussies.
Just found out that SCGC was Gretchen! The bitch is so hated that she even has to make up her own friends.

Nice how she refers to herself in the third person and even better that she kept pouring gas on the flames, just like aways. And of course, there is the avoiding of accountabilty that is par for the course.

Wes

incredible!

What's cool is a very good friend of hers is the one who busted her out. Even her close friends despise her I guess!