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busty wrote:I don't think it really matters whether someone has said MV or PMRP or anywhere else is safe or their efforts to try to limit risk is going to encourage litigation----although saying something is "safe" could present problems in a suit (but that does not appear to have happened for the routes in the Red). If someone is already inclined to file suit, its going to happen. Everyone is ready to file a lawsuit. That's why there are so many commercials and ads for personal injury lawyers.

I'm gonna sue you! You're not "safe"!

Rude ramblings of a drunken madman were edited in an effort to preserve the peace and continue friendship.

the lurkist wrote:

Has the RRGCC done much of anything to instruct, mentor, and teach risk management to new climbers?

And another thing, Rick. Let's not make this an us against them thing.

I second that motion.. I've never, ever expected, nor particularly desired the access oriented coalitions to get involved in risk management training or teaching climbing. Let the specialities lie where they are best organized already.

I'd suggest of any "member of the community" that climbing gyms, (promoting climbing for profit!), are the organizations that should bear responsibility for informing new climbers how different and dangerous outdoor rockclimbing is when compared to the carpeted cushioned living room experience that one gets at the gym.

WiredNut

yes, take time off Jrock..and leave your drill with me for safe keeping.

i need a blumpkin

piggie wrote...

me versus you lurk...the grouse versus the piglet in a death match....see who can take a victory whipper from the chains and come closest to the ground without touchdown....I'll belay you first.

dude, are you trying to kill my baby daddy?

Whats the point of a victory whip any way, your just taking a send away if you dont clip the anchors first.


IT'S LIKE BEATING A DEAD HORSE!!!

animmericnameanamenirclimber...

you obviously have never taken a victory whipper, and hence do not understand the importance of the term. repeat after me,..."a victory whipper can only be taken after a send".....

you are too beholden to your "rules" abour sending. next you'll posit that we can't grab draws and count it as a send...

I take them pre-send for good mojo.

Meadows that is not by definition a VW and thus not a part this discussion. Those Whips are for another thread...