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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:29 pm
by Meadows
michaelarmand wrote:Wow...very interesting read. I am amazed the grandy jury indicted for murder. It seems to me the actual cause of death was the victims failure to tie in properly. I could maybe see a criminally negligent homicide charge....
It is interesting and I see the defense making a strong enough case to prove that the victim was experienced enough to make his own choices about climbing, especially about his knot.

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:57 pm
by Barnacle Ben
I have to reiterate. It is a fake story, and a stupid one.

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:43 am
by Pcgoss
Yea your opinion is yours to have, and it sounds awfully fake, however it was posted merely as an interesting read. so maybe by you posting that its a stupid story, perhaps you'll meet someone on this site and you can both meet up and chat about other stupid things together....

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:23 pm
by krampus
only serious conversations for serious people. You must bring your A-game to this site

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:44 pm
by rustyvasectomy
steep4me wrote: I don't climb with people who are high .
i don't climb with people who aren't high. I like to avoid reality as much as possible.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:22 pm
by Jay
What a piece of crap read:
Ward was on belay at the time. Or so he thought. Upon seeing him fall, belayer and climb leader, Justin Morgan, tensioned the rope in his tuber.
Stupid stoner belays with a potato...

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:01 pm
by _Rasputin
The moral of this story (real or fiction):

If you take a gumby climbing you are totally responsible for their safety, and the more irresponsible your actions are as a leader, the more responsible you will ultimately be held if there is an accident.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:13 pm
by gripster
_Rasputin wrote:The moral of this story (real or fiction):

If you take a gumby climbing you are totally responsible for their safety, and the more irresponsible your actions are as a leader, the more responsible you will ultimately be held if there is an accident.
that's what i like to call bullshit. if you were a hired professional guide then yes, that would be the case. other wise it is assumption of risk. climbing is dangerous, everyone knows you could die, end of story.

yes, super lame story by the way, and totally fictitious.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:38 pm
by _Rasputin
gripster wrote:
_Rasputin wrote:The moral of this story (real or fiction):

If you take a gumby climbing you are totally responsible for their safety, and the more irresponsible your actions are as a leader, the more responsible you will ultimately be held if there is an accident.
that's what i like to call bullshit. if you were a hired professional guide then yes, that would be the case. other wise it is assumption of risk. climbing is dangerous, everyone knows you could die, end of story.

yes, super lame story by the way, and totally fictitious.
No, that's not B.S.

If you take a gumby climbing and fail to verify that he/she can tie a proper climbing knot and attach it to a harness then you should be liable, maybe not murder but at least negligent homocide.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:51 pm
by rustyvasectomy
_Rasputin wrote:
gripster wrote:
_Rasputin wrote:The moral of this story (real or fiction):

If you take a gumby climbing you are totally responsible for their safety, and the more irresponsible your actions are as a leader, the more responsible you will ultimately be held if there is an accident.
that's what i like to call bullshit. if you were a hired professional guide then yes, that would be the case. other wise it is assumption of risk. climbing is dangerous, everyone knows you could die, end of story.

yes, super lame story by the way, and totally fictitious.
No, that's not B.S.

If you take a gumby climbing and fail to verify that he/she can tie a proper climbing knot and attach it to a harness then you should be liable, maybe not murder but at least negligent homocide.
Investigating officer-"Excuse me gumby, sorry to bother you when you are on the ground bleeding in a state of near death. Before you go though, could you please just follow through this figure eight, its for our investigation..."