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Post by **SCIN** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:30 pm

Oh yea, the picture showed him in aiders with a rack full of pins. He was hammering something in the crack. I thought the hammer was a handjam.

Post by **Don McGlone** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:20 pm

Define it however you want, but there is no doubt it would be harder (purer?) to finish an attempt without downclimbing, stickclipping, etc. Just like it is harder to redpoint a sport route clipping the bolts instead of having preplaced draws. My two cents. What are your guys thoughts on pre-placed pro on a trad route? There is a route in the Morehead area that has finally been redpointed, but on pre-placed pro. It is the only known clean assent to date. A great achievement, but still not near as impressive as placing pro on lead will be. But when someone comes along and redpoints the route placing their own pro, will that take anything away from the original first clean assent? I don't think so. Just a different, harder (purer?) accent. It is what it is in the mind of the climber.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:01 pm

Isn't that the very definition of a "pink point"?

Post by **Don McGlone** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:43 pm

Yea, but it seems like the term "pinkpoint" has been dropped these days, I guess because of the trend of pre-placed draws on a lot of the harder routes.