Unknown Wall... Need Info.
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When You stumbled across this area, did the rock look decent. Like could it actually be bolted? Was the rock formation any good? or was it just crap.
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I've whined about this elsewhere, but I'll just repeat myself. A lot of people are concerned about the impact that climbing has on the areas around cliffs, which is fair. Right now, people generally don't avoid the Red because 'it's too crowded', so the number of climber-visits for a given period of time is fixed and wouldn't increase if there were more routes. But the more cliffs that are developed, the more that number of climbers would be spread out, and thus, the usage impact would be lessened. More routes/more development = aesthetic/environmental friendliness!
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I have scoped this entire area from Left Flank, all the way around past D. Boone Hut to the ridge opposite where the Left Flank trail intersects with the main trail. No development is going to happen there anytime soon due to the USFS procedures. I have been told it will be at least two years before they will get to my application that I submitted two years ago for routes at an existing crag.
On the bright side, the area of discussion in this thread might have future possibilities. I totally agree w tom's arguement. The other reason that this area would be good for more development is that trail access is already well established.
On the bright side, the area of discussion in this thread might have future possibilities. I totally agree w tom's arguement. The other reason that this area would be good for more development is that trail access is already well established.
"Be responsible for your actions and sensitive to the concerns of other visitors and land managers. ... Your reward is the opportunity to climb in one of the most beautiful areas in this part of the country." John H. Bronaugh
Two things...Tell that to the Forest Service and that's why we now own the Murrey Property...tomdarch wrote:I've whined about this elsewhere, but I'll just repeat myself. A lot of people are concerned about the impact that climbing has on the areas around cliffs, which is fair. Right now, people generally don't avoid the Red because 'it's too crowded', so the number of climber-visits for a given period of time is fixed and wouldn't increase if there were more routes. But the more cliffs that are developed, the more that number of climbers would be spread out, and thus, the usage impact would be lessened. More routes/more development = aesthetic/environmental friendliness!
"Climbing is the spice, not the meal." ~ Lurkist