Pilgrimage

Post by **MiaRock** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:29 pm

i kind of doubt it since even sharma was saying the climbing is really hard there. plus i don't think india is the easiest place travel.

Post by **kentuckysarah** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:43 pm

I almost went bouldering Sunday, really wanted to...but decided to just climb routes instead but thanks for inviting me to go with you Merrick and Casamig.

Post by **Steve** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:32 pm

I wondered the same thing Artsay, heck the locals were probabbly intrigued by the mad bouldering skilz!

At the time I was kinda bored with the video, it went a little long for my taste maybe it was 'cause I was watching at the end of a long day. But after shooting a climbing story on Wed there were several good things that stood out. The interaction and dialoge was good, funny at most points. Compared to other bouldering videos (and I haven't seen many) it was pretty good. First and foremost it told a story, had a beggining, middle, and end. There was character development. Natural sound! What a novel concept to have nat sound under some of the music and narrative. It wasn't straight up music over bouldering video. I'm tellin' ya sound is as important as good video (try watching tv on mute...not as good). There were some nice transitions and cut-aways, but for the most part pretty standard And it never hurts to use a tripod, some of that stuff would have looked better of the sticks. And where did Katie go during most of the bouldering that made the cut? Was she lounging on a crash pad out of frame (only saw that once)? Was she off doing other problems? I went into thinking it was a bouldering video about these three kids going to India to climb, thinking there was going to be equal time. My preconceived notions left me feeling a little empty during the screening. But overall very good, it had monkeys in it...very very good.

Post by **ynot** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:39 pm

I suspect she shredded her tips and took time off. I noticed she was experimenting with different ways to tape,prolly an injury. I tried to tape that way and it was just uncomfortable. I liked the movie. Its cool to see foriegn places and traditions. The old guy that looked like the Mayor was casual.

Post by **Spragwa** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:58 pm

I loved the movie! I too considered the impact on the community. First, part of what is sacred about the area are the monkeys climbing on the boulders. Perhaps encouraging the locals to climb, which they did with the children and several elders, will bring them closer to their God. They could worship the rock and the animals even more closely. Second, the amounts of money that the three boulderers spent in that town probably equaled their economy for several months or maybe even a year. It's a catch 22.

Most important...MAD props to Hugh. He called Katie and Josh Lowell to arrange the thing. Not only did he have the idea, he had the follow-through. Woohoo!!!!!!

Post by **Dwayne** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 4:00 pm

I thought the movie was well made. You could tell it had plenty of sponser bucks behind it. As far as them possibly disrespecting the locals, they ate the locals food and payed the price. Nothing bridges gaps in cultures like sharing food.

Post by **allah** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 4:12 pm

I dont remember any of the movie, i guess im lucky I bought a copy so i can watch it this coming weekend

Post by **captain static** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:28 pm

I wouldn't worry about the impact on local culture. Here is an excerpt of someone's travelogue from bootsnall.com:

And Hampi is one of those environments. It is one of India's most holy of places and boasts 2000+ temples dotted around the close area, and it's true to say that it is a travelers hang out. All sorts of people converge on this small and once (I'm sure) peaceful town, turning it into a pizza/macaroni, spliff smoking place, dislodging a lot of the local atmosphere for a more cosmopolitan, hip scene. The main Bazaar is now lined with tourist tat shops, restaurants and craft-shops. Kids selling postcards and guidebooks after school, or even when they should be at school, pseudo guides that want to show you around and rickshaw drivers that hassle you at every corner.

Post by **merrick** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:49 pm

it is my new favorite video. it replaced dosage in the #1 spot. and dosage replaced rampage. anybody see the pattern.

I think it really got into the psycology of climbing hard as well as gave a good sense of the environment they were in. and i agree with steve about the plot and character development. i am going to order a copy myself so i can watch it again and again. oh yea the monkeys were good too.

when i lived in india one of the things that i really really remember was the complete lack of respect for the enviroment around where peopel lived. there were heaps of trash everywhere and litereally shit running through the streets(open sewers). people living up in the hills would just throw their trash in the sewers and it would wash down the hills to the plains. there was no conception that there were people down there that had to deal with it. so while i see where people are coming from with the chalk comments i think that people probably do not even notice that compared to the filth pileing up around them.

the video didn't really make me want to go there. long reachy hard sharp problems spread out in a maze of boulders doesn't really sound like a great place to go unless you have a lot of time to put in there. still the video got me super spyched. that bouldering session the next day was one of the best i have had in long time. the invite to come along is open anytime i am around kentuckysarah.