Roadside Crag Open??

[MarkM]

Does anyone know if Roadside Crag is open, or not? I am looking for an area other than Muir Valley to climb .9-.10a b. I also was curious if anyone has any good ideas for high vantage points accessed by foot for watching sunrise/sunset. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[pigsteak]

no.

and none.
sorry.

[climb2core]

Ha, some comments are better off left not said. Wish I had hit the delete button a few times...

[dustonian]

It's true though. Anyone shelling out the big bucks for a day of guided climbing there is part of the problem.

Anyway... you could hike up Natural Bridge, Skybridge, or especially Chimney Rock for good sunsets/sunrises.

[climb2core]

Is that for real... Is one of the owners doing guiding there now?

[dustonian]

That's the word...

http://www.caverunbikeshop.com/

"We are co-owners of the famous Roadside climbing area in the Red River Gorge and are the only authorized guiding service for that area."

$175/day... ka-CHING!! HAHAHAHA!!

[climb2core]

I would say that is pretty much the truth based upon that link. I need to go back to finish off a couple of projects... I wonder how much they would charge.

[dustonian]

$175 plus the psychic scarring of being gay-uided... could be worse, to climb at Skytop in the Gunks, you have to pay for the dumbass guide ($280) AND a night at the Mohonk Mountain House ($400+) HAHAHA! That castrated assclown Marty Molitoris who runs the service there used to chase us off all the time. It's hard to imagine anything more pathetic than trying to squeeze a paycheck out of climbing or guiding! And climbing itself is such a lame yuppie sport these days... worse than road biking for sure, even with the blood doping and those "ghey" spandex outfits.

[Yasmeen]

http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtop ... 28&t=14083 - posted Tue May 24, 2011 at 8:02 am
http://www.caverunbikeshop.com - Updated 5/26/11

[dustonian]

Timely indeed. So why the need to blame climbers as a group for the public closure? Guilt? Shame? If there are individual behaviors landowners don't like, post up some rules, and by and large they will be followed... 99% of climbers are an acquiescent and obedient bunch, and we can whip the rest into awareness and submission. They expressed disapproval of the chain draws and the abandoned project/rope, so we cleaned up the mess that very week, along with a bag of trash from the trails. Don't like dogs and hammocks? Ban them. Crag-base erosion an issue? Let us do another trail day to support the soil. On the other hand, if you really want to profit from the property by turning it into exclusive business, fine, just come out and say that up front.