Actually, I believe a lot of us already gave you a ton of money for the steel biners you put up around the gorge? http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtop ... 11&t=10853dssclimb wrote:And if you've never bought draws or biners to replace worn gear then you have no dog in this fight.
I think some of these got pulled last week, are these at Miguel's too?
Personally I've donated thousands of dollars to climbing and will continue to do so, including to your fundraiser Dave. And since that essentially kicked off the whole fixed steel gear effort at the gorge, how many injuries have occurred on those routes? I know of a sad situation where a young couple died because of old webbing and would like to believe that could've been prevented if steel fixed anchors were on that route. I also know of someone's rope that got sliced from wore down aluminum gear that luckily didn't result in another trajedy.
There are obviously two camps with an unclear line in the sand on when fixed gear should be used. Good discussion but I vote for data collecting to judge assumptions from.