How should I feel about this?

[tbwilsonky]

My question is why bother to update the rc.com guide when there is a sweet as on-line guide right here at rrc.com?

like, duh. the only thing better than one tick list is two tick lists.

[lena_chita]

My question is why bother to update the rc.com guide when there is a sweet as on-line guide right here at rrc.com?

Well, since I got singled out for this, I'll try to answer.

Completely different things, IMO. No one is using RC database as a guide for directions/finiding routes, it is too spotty, incomplete and inconsistent for it. If you look in RC database you will see that for some areas that have dozens of routes there would be maybe one or two recorded in the database, b/c that's what someone climbed and wanted to add to their log.

Most people who bother entering routes in the database on RC just like to keep an online log of routes they climbed -- since the RC database covers all areas, not just the Red. Entering a new route in a database doesn't give you weight, credence, or anything whatsoever. The information about who entered any given route in the database is there in the route description, and it is possible to find all the routes that any specific person entered, but it is buried deep in the user profiles.




Red is probably unique in terms of up-to-date online guidebook. Most areas don't have that. In most areas the routes that go up since the last edition of the guidebook are word-of-mouth sort of thing, until the next print edition comes out.

So when I initially added some routes to the RC database-- either for the NRG, or RRG-- they were routes from a published guidebook, and everyone just seemed to copy the route descriptions from the paper hardcopy into the RC database. I did not think too much of it at the time.

But when it came to putting in a route that was not in a published guidebook, I had a lightbulb moment and thought: "wait, it isn't right to copy unpublished route information from the online guide"-- that's when I switched to just putting "see redriverclimbing for details" in route description.

[p0bray01]

take em to Yosemite.... hang em by their toes, smear honey on them and watch the action begin!!

[clif]

and if she puts on a good show i'd buy a subscription

[ynot]

get mr. T to throw mohawk grenedes at them.

[Meadows]

RC.com I understand is owned by a company (it was bought from the person who owned it originally) so I assume profits are involved. I would bet they would take concern with your work being transferred to their site. You are published and it says so when we open the online guide.

Ebay will even remove copied and pasted text/pictures that are not authorized for use for fear of copyright infringement.

[gripster]

why would a link not suffice anyway?

ditto

[Josephine]

[p0bray01]

I like the Mohawk grenade idea....