Usolicited Advice Part I: Planning

[rhunt]

I think it really depends on whether you climb for fun, or climb to send hard stuff.

Pigsteak - you gonna let this comment go?

[krampus]

I love getting up early to go climbing, I got nothing else to do. It doesn't make me a better climber though.

[Ascentionist]

First - early = no hungover climbers hogging the crag

Second - Unless you are climbing with a regular partner that has the same climbing agenda as you then it might be best to discuss the plans for the day. My worst climbing days have been when I was matched up with someone that had completely different goals for the day. I wanted to do lots of moderate mileage, they wanted to work one route, I wanted to send one project in the boondocks they wanted to socialize at Roadside, I wanted to climb trad they wanted to climb sport, climbing for fun vs. training, etc...

Getting paired up in those situations is no fun for anyone. If you can discuss and plan for the day then people will be less likely to get mad or annoyed with you and leave you at the crag. Just ask Tuna Boy and Stretch about that time at Long Wall.

[pigsteak]

I think it really depends on whether you climb for fun, or climb to send hard stuff.

Pigsteak - you gonna let this comment go?

we all know people who claim to "climb for fun" are just making excuses for sucking..and for not admitting the failure that comes with pushing oneself...

(how was that rhunt?)

[rhunt]

Perfect!

[ahab]

hmm, it seems everyone has a plan to avoid everyone elses plans. keep up the strategic planning people. it's working.

[DriskellHR]

I think it really depends on whether you climb for fun, or climb to send hard stuff.

Pigsteak - you gonna let this comment go?

we all know people who claim to "climb for fun" are just making excuses for sucking..and for not admitting the failure that comes with pushing oneself...

(how was that rhunt?)

So, Whats your excuse? lemme guess, you forgot your kneepads?

[pigsteak]

noooo, I plainly suck with no excuses.......why else would a washed up sport climber start bolting? cause I can't send.

[der uber]

Not quite sure why it's important for people who don't plan well or get to the crag early to change their ways, unless they're your partner. If you're on the ball, good for you.

[Huggybone]

I think these different attitudes attitudes like wine snobs: Is the function to detect all the finer points, pointing out all the subtleties to your posh friends, about how refined your taste is? (Because this takes some education, planning, etc...)

Or do you just want to get ripped?

Whatever is fine, but nothing is so stupid as to try to convince someone that their way is dumb.