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caribe
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Joel: this brand of calling one out via song is part of the calypso culture of the southern Caribbean islands. to have this form of musical communication transposed to rap in the climbing community makes me feel at home. On the islands such a challenge would be answered musically with a response from another calypso mon, but Odub is alone. :cry: :D

I guess there is some of this political play in the rap genre but the frequency pales in comparison to calypso's hundred-plus-year history of political commentary.

My understanding is that the perpetrator is contrite and repairs have been made. The song does not have to translate as a lionization of the doer, just the deed.
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That's mean. Adam is a nice guy.
With all the sadness in the gorge lately, it's truly upsetting that you were motivated to use your creative voice to extend hate instead of love to an individual in our community.

But hey, you know me...nothing new, right Kris?
Does he have a strange bear claw like appendage protruding from his neck? He kep petting it.
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Post by mcrib »

I just thing the song is crap.
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Post by 512OW »

Artsay wrote:That's mean. Adam is a nice guy.
With all the sadness in the gorge lately, it's truly upsetting that you were motivated to use your creative voice to extend hate instead of love to an individual in our community.

But hey, you know me...nothing new, right Kris?
Thats what I thought too. You didn't get the email I got from him... or read the ones I read from him to other people...
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The act.
The art in response to the act.
The response to the art.
All force an agonizing appraisal of the structure of our community.

The players on all sides care enough to do x or go public with y.
By this we grow, compromise and come to consensus. We decide what is more right and what is more wrong. We set behavioral guidelines for the future.

In the absence of this societal push and pull we are less than chimps . . . we are bacteria.

The discourse isn't personal. The discourse is not about identifying the villains from the heroes. The discourse is about a better Gorge.

I would climb with Adam if I climbed as hard as Adam even though I don't know Adam from Adam. I don't think this is about Adam or about Kris. The Calypsonians to whom I elude above are not concerned with winning some personality contest; they are concerned with a better world.
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Post by kidney_dave »

well played kris... 8)
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Post by dipsi »

Why do I keep liking rap?

Oh yeah..........
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Post by 512OW »

Caribe, you're smarter than you look. :)
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Post by caribe »

Its the Sarah Palin glasses. I used to wear round wire rims. With those Trotsky look-a-likes on my nose I never had a problem with credibility.
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don't forget to tell us to get a six pack
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