wow, i'm a bonehead.

[L Day]

And I'm working on my spelling.

[krampus]

glad one of of is, I couldn't spell my way out of an elementery school

[ynot]

I had not thought of using the wire loop on a nut. nothing works very well on Metolius cams. the trigger tends to slide on the little plastic tubes so you have to grab the lobes with a couple nut tools.

[L K Day]

I bet you can remove almost any fixed cam with two nut tools. Keep in mind that it could take quite a bit of time for the second to climb up to the leader, get the second tool, then lower down to the stuck piece, remove it, then climb or jug the pitch again. No real problem at the crag, but on a wall or a big alpine route the cost in time could be prohibitive. You might be tempted to just leave the piece behind, a piece that you might wish you had later. With this in mind it's probably a good idea to practice a bit with the "tools at hand" approach to cam removal. It's kind of surprising how fast you can remove a seriously stuck piece by employing a bit of creativity.

Euroford - I'm afraid I'd need a bit more evidence than two stuck cams in 7 years to believe you're a bonehead

[TradMike]

I saw Chuck walking off with it mumbling something like don't ____ with Chuck.

[ynot]

good one Mike!

[Fartspray]

You

[kdelap]

I use Day's techniqes with this one as well.

I put a cam (of about the same size) a few inches above or below and clip in direct. I put all my body weight on this cam and push with my knees. Many times this with expand the rock ever so slightly and help get the stuck one out. Now as for Roadside Attreactions "crack in the earth" probally not as useful...

[euroford]

Your Cam has been removed by some motivated out of towners

well, it was put in by some lazy out of towners so that all makes a bit of sense i suppose. i'm sure somebody thought it was friggen chistmas come early.

[Fartspray]

well