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Quote: "They are two of the most anti-social, elitist climbers I have ever met. I truelly believe that they would rather have the preserve totally to themselves - I mean, Shannon has actually asked people to leave a crag on the murry property before. " You are such a Whiner....I'm sitting ...

Artsay, I applaud you for saying that you cannot really make any assumptions about a person because they have not done anything bad to you. The internet has given a path to the termites that grab on to garbage and carry it on and on. I'm not claiming that W* is an inherently bad person, he has just ...

Of course, temporarily I am making myself known and posting my opinion.

I will not however, claim to think that everyone wants to read or understand it.

You have to remember you are viewing it from your perspective. You value W* because he has done good things for this website. I agree, from that perspective he is a great asset. What has he done for climbing in the red? as a whole? It takes a very strong person to put themselves out there in front o...

Changing a fools mind would be a fools challenge. Your mind is set. I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm trying to get you to see that I agree that people need to step to the plate and help. What I'm not agreeing to is that there has been any intention from anyone up to this point to exclude anyo...

Wes, You often repeat hearsay. Where do you get this crap that S* would ask someone to leave "her" crag. Were you there? Lots of people misinterpret things people say. There is such a thing as climbing etiquette that some have never heard of. She is an old school climber. Not many of those...

Your interpretation of self importance shows that you're an insecure human being.

The posts on this website alone by every single person wreaks of self importance. You are posting here because you think people want to know what you think.
Otherwise, you'd be writing in your journal.

You people don't know the facts and you are on here in a public place acting like what you say is not hurting real people. I have tried to stay out of it, but I can no longer sit here and watch you trash people's names and feelings as if there are no ramifications. G* may have over stepped her bound...

Poor poor untouchables. The only ones that call someone elitist are the ones that will never be able to touch what the so-called "elitists" do, or think about doing. All you can do is sit there and criticize and critique, then when someone asks you what you have done lately you say you got...