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HHO

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:04 pm
by RogueIT
Has anyone tried running there car on the HHO gas created by running an electric current through a water and baking soda mixture and then feeding the gas into the carborator?
A friend of mine made this little setup and got his Yukon from 14 MPG to 29 MPG and gets 62 MPG on his S10 that he has been running for a while.

Just wonder if anyone has tried that with there car.

thanks,
Rogue

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:15 am
by dhoyne
So you're spraying raw hydrogen and oxygen, created thru electrolysis (which is a VERY ENERGY INTENSIVE PROCESS) directly into your engine? You realize that most of your engine components weren't designed to handle the different type of combustion, right?

I'll keep my 15mpg and my engine, thank you.


Oh yeah, when was the last time a carburetor was put on an engine? Wasn't fuel injection standard since the 70's or 80's?

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:04 am
by RogueIT
dhoyne wrote:So you're spraying raw hydrogen and oxygen, created thru electrolysis (which is a VERY ENERGY INTENSIVE PROCESS) directly into your engine? You realize that most of your engine components weren't designed to handle the different type of combustion, right?

I'll keep my 15mpg and my engine, thank you.


Oh yeah, when was the last time a carburetor was put on an engine? Wasn't fuel injection standard since the 70's or 80's?
naysayer :?
Just asking a question...didn't know that big oil posted here...

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:32 am
by L K Day
No.
Your friend is lieing.
No connection to oil, big or small.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:05 pm
by pawilkes
EFI (electronic fuel injection) was first developed in the 50's or 60's, I think early corvettes had them. EFI became much more common in mid-80s and im guessing anything produced since the early 90's has it. i have heard from a friend of a guy who has hydrogen injected into his fuel line at some point and gets 70 mpg out of an El Camino. i'd be concerned about what effects it has on the engine though.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:09 pm
by ynot
melts the valves

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:59 pm
by RogueIT
what are the valves made of...steel, titanium?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:17 am
by L K Day
This is just plain stupid. The ONLY way to double your gas mileage with a fuel additive is by replacing 50% of the energy supplied by gasoline with energy supplied by the fuel additive (in this case hydrogen). Without looking it up, I'd feel very safe with a blanket guaranfuckintee that the energy equivilent of a gallon of gasoline, purchased, or manufactured on site, in the form of hydrogen, would cost more than that gallon of gasoline.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:41 am
by L K Day
OK, so I looked it up. The energy equivilent of one gallon of gasoline is 16 gallons of hydrogen at 3,625PSI! To generate that much hydrogen onboard through electrolysis would require a HUGE amount of electricity, and a fairly big water tank as well. Where would that electricity come from? From an generator powered by burning gasoline and hydrogen! In effect you're asking for a perpetual motion machine.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:54 am
by krampus
well said Day