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My partner's and I were talking last weekend about when you have successfully redpointed a route when one of them pointed out that everyone has there own opinion. I am anxious to hear some people's views on this issue.

One your done, man. Clipping two is for top-ropers.

I didn't vote because there's no 'all of the above'. All three are valid.

Sorry Cleveland, you have stumbled across a non-issue in the world of climbing. There are tons of rules and nuances that can be argued. How many carabiners you clip into at the end of a climb is not one of them.

P.S. I voted for the correct answer. One

Lander wrote:I didn't vote because there's no 'all of the above'. All three are valid.

Nice work Lander I see that my pole is biased, I have failed you all

Cleveland wrote:My partner's and I were talking last weekend

You should probably edit this. Ashtray has very sensitive "gheydar". When someone mentions "my partner" or "my life buddy" he is very quick to label you ghey.

actually, most people who clip one or take a victory whip were too weak to clip both (ie pumped out of their frekin mind). they use all sorts of excuses (I wanted to take the whip, one and done, the biners were stiff, etc) to justify their behavior, but deep down they know this action is akin to cheater stones, excessive ticking, preclipping 2-3 bolts at the start, etc)

they may have you believe it is a "non issue", but deep down they are hoping to sway more people to their dumbing down of the sport. gawd, why am I the only one who points out the obvious.

JR wrote:

Cleveland wrote:My partner's and I were talking last weekend

You should probably edit this. Ashtray has very sensitive "gheydar". When someone mentions "my partner" or "my life buddy" he is very quick to label you ghey.

Only b/c he wants it and knows he can't have it.

My favorite defination of redpoint:

When a climber has led a climb from top to bottom with out weighting the rope or gear. Also called a clean ascent.

http://www.greatoutdoors.com/published/ ... yofascent/

Although, I'm still working on figuring out how to lead a climb "from top to bottom."

i agree with Lander. as long as you get to the top no falls no takes it counts. what you do from that point is up to you.

pigsteak wrote:they may have you believe it is a "non issue", but deep down they are hoping to sway more people to their dumbing down of the sport. gawd, why am I the only one who points out the obvious.

pigsteak wrote:it isn't a sport......carry on.