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This sucks.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:59 pm
by L Day
Why am I not surprised. The ol' unintended consequences, again.
http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topst ... e-mag.aspx
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:21 pm
by Andrew
This is old news, really old news.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:38 pm
by charlie
What Andrew said. It's really always been more for corn subsidies than anything.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:17 pm
by L K Day
Maybe, but most of the bad press that biofuels have been receiving is in terms of "no net energy gain". This is the first thing I've seen that said switchgrass would increase CO2 emissions by 50%.
Switchgrass ethanol was supposed to be the great hope.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:52 pm
by Andrew
Thats why I keep talking about ethanol from organic waste.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:14 am
by L K Day
Ethanol from organic waste seems like a very good thing. Have any idea what percentage or our energy needs it could supply?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:31 am
by Andrew
I don't think it can supply a very large percentage, but I have heard 40% easily. There just needs to be an effort to do it. I truly believe that ethanol is a just a temporary solution. Maybe 40 years worth before we can do something better. A combo between some ethanol from grown products(switchgrass, sugercane, something else) and waste products would complete end our dependence on foreign oil and could be implemented in 5 years without breaking a sweat, but it won't happen because of our government, big oil, and uniformed citizens.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:48 am
by anticlmber
and because Andrew eats all the corn.
ask him about the time he was supposed to "help" with a food drive for africa and what happened there.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:44 pm
by L Day
To replace 40% of our petroleum consumption (2006 figures) with ethanol would require the production of 556,000,000 gals of ethanol per day. All this from waste? And how huge would the infrastructure have to be? I wish this was possible, but wishing won't make it happen.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:45 pm
by L Day
Duplicate post.