First the standard disclaimers about it doesn't really matter, and climbing for your soul, not numbers, it is all good, new age hippy stuff, but....
I was wondering what people count as a "try" for the online guide book tick list? Just redpoint burns? Do hangdog, power belayed TR's two years ago count? What about if you fall at the crux 2nd bolt and lower down to start over? Does that count as a try? Does one day of working the route count as a try? Or is a try anytime you feet leave the ground on the route? Is 1 try an onsight / flash? Or just first "for real" try?
Tries?
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Pru
they are all lying. We have already established that there are no true onsights in the RRG (thank you, Pigsteak), so "1 try" shouldn't even be an option. Also, if people take a fall or three and get to the anchors from there, they are undoubtedly counting that as 1 try, when in fact it's 1+(number of falls).
I think it should be mandatory to carry score cards like people do on golf courses (I'd say comps, but we all know people cheat at those) so we can keep better track of this stuff and focus on what really matters: numbers! 2 witnesses mandatory.
I think it should be mandatory to carry score cards like people do on golf courses (I'd say comps, but we all know people cheat at those) so we can keep better track of this stuff and focus on what really matters: numbers! 2 witnesses mandatory.
I count a try as stepping off the ground into the first moves. If I can't remember how many times I've been on it then I don't record it. I'm all about getting the information out there just to find the difficult routes for the grade. For example, if a bunch of people are recording that Ro Shampo took them 4 tries whereas Pine took them 2 tries then we can finally put to rest the infamous "Is Ro Shampo a 5.12a route" question.
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-Horatio
-Horatio
Each time I tie in at the bottom of a route, get on the route and climb equals 1 try. Whether I make it to the second bolt or the anchors I count 'the run' as a try.
Bolt to bolt recon equals 1 try.
Peel at third bolt, then finish the route equals 1 try.
Climb to the fifth bolt, pump out and lower equals 1 try.
Red point run equals 1 try.
Total equals 4 tries.
That's me.
Bolt to bolt recon equals 1 try.
Peel at third bolt, then finish the route equals 1 try.
Climb to the fifth bolt, pump out and lower equals 1 try.
Red point run equals 1 try.
Total equals 4 tries.
That's me.
Pick myself up, stop lookin' back.
Grand Funk Railroad
Grand Funk Railroad
wouldn't a route thats suppose to be easy for the grade get more traffic by people trying to climb that grade?SCIN wrote: Ro Shampo took them 4 tries whereas Pine took them 2 tries then we can finally put to rest the infamous "Is Ro Shampo a 5.12a route" question.
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From dictionary.com
try /traɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[trahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, tried, try·ing, noun, plural tries.
–verb (used with object) 1. to attempt to do or accomplish: Try it before you say it's simple.
2. to test the effect or result of (often fol. by out): to try a new method; to try a recipe out.
3. to endeavor to evaluate by experiment or experience: to try a new field; to try a new book.
4. to test the quality, value, fitness, accuracy, etc., of: Will you try a spoonful of this and tell me what you think of it?
So outside of thinking of doing the route or just looking at it can be counts as a try.
try /traɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[trahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, tried, try·ing, noun, plural tries.
–verb (used with object) 1. to attempt to do or accomplish: Try it before you say it's simple.
2. to test the effect or result of (often fol. by out): to try a new method; to try a recipe out.
3. to endeavor to evaluate by experiment or experience: to try a new field; to try a new book.
4. to test the quality, value, fitness, accuracy, etc., of: Will you try a spoonful of this and tell me what you think of it?
So outside of thinking of doing the route or just looking at it can be counts as a try.
I think you need to factor in the date of the sends and the physical condition of the climber. Someone who sent Ro as a breakthrough .12 and then came back to Pine (and sends in 1-2 goes) after knocking off many other 12s doesn't necessarily give Ro a lower grade.SCIN wrote:I count a try as stepping off the ground into the first moves. If I can't remember how many times I've been on it then I don't record it. I'm all about getting the information out there just to find the difficult routes for the grade. For example, if a bunch of people are recording that Ro Shampo took them 4 tries whereas Pine took them 2 tries then we can finally put to rest the infamous "Is Ro Shampo a 5.12a route" question.