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aw hell..
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:01 pm
by Paul3eb
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:27 pm
by TankAzz
Sweet Jesus, I hope that does not happen
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:31 am
by pigsteak
over rated, and climbers have been warned many times.
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:49 am
by Paul3eb
pigsteak wrote:over rated, and climbers have been warned many times.
warned about what? from the sound of it, it has nothing to do with behaviors or attitudes of climbers.
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:49 pm
by young'n climber
http://www.huecorockranch.com/
They posted on the 22nd of january that Heuco isn't on the list of land to transfer to the Texas Historic Society, but the access fund says different? I'm confused.
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:45 pm
by pigsteak
paul, didn't mean losing it becasue of the attitudes of climbers. "warned" meaning that the historical society has been in the mix for years, if not decades, to assume responsibility for this land. it was a matter of time before it all came to a head again. I remember this discussion around 10 years ago, right before the first major restriction.
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:13 pm
by Paul3eb
i see.. well that sucks and worries me even more. sounds like they want it pretty bad then.. hopefully other users, climbers obviously included, have come to be enough of an influence to justify keeping it completely open (relative to hueco).
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:33 pm
by TankAzz
all i know is allah is a dead man if it closes before i get to go there, since he talked me out of it this year!
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:56 pm
by ynot
Ive never seen rock quality as good as Hueco.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:32 am
by bentley
Speaking of the Access Fund, here is a run down from there site of what they have done for the Red in the past few years. Paul did a great job of covering this information in the most recent RRGCC news letter.
http://www.rrgcc.org/newsletters.php
The information below is from:
http://www.accessfund.org/regions/grant/KY
Kentucky Grants Awarded
2006
Pendergrass-Murray Recreational Preserve Land Acquisition Project, Kentucky (2006)
The Red River Gorge Climbers Coalition (RRGCC) was awarded a grant to assist with the acquisition of the Pendergrass-Murray Recreational Preserve climbing area. The Pendergrass-Murray area is a regionally and nationally significant rock climbing area containing almost 75% of the existing open climbing in the Southern Region of the Red River Gorge, Kentucky. RRGCC purchased the 700 acre parcel for recreational use and protection in 2004. Climbing will be allowed and access to the crag will be guaranteed in perpetuity. This grant supplements a grant awarded by the AF in 2004 for the acquisition.
New River Gorge Viewshed and Climbing Access Protection, Kentucky, Kentucky (2006)
A grant was awarded to the New River Alliance of Climbers to conduct modeling research on the potential climbing viewshed impact of proposed housing developments on the rim of the New River Gorge. The National Park Service’s viewshed analysis shows approximately 20% of the lots will be visible from highly utilized areas in the park, including areas used for climbing such as Beauty Mountain. The Park Service analysis is limited by its inability to definitively model the impact of the development when the leaves have fallen. An independent third party with the ability to model the vegetative cover is needed to validate the park service analysis. This modeling will include viewshed impacts from popular climbing areas.
2005
Red River Gorge, Kentucky (2005)
The University of Kentucky Research Foundation received a grant to conduct a research project to test the effects of intentional site burial using geo-textiles on cultural resources found in two rock shelters in the Red River Gorge. The results of this study will provide needed information on whether previously closed areas can be opened up to some types of recreational use following placement of geo-synthetic material.
2003
Red River, Kentucky (2003)
The Red River Gorge Climbers Coalition was awarded a grant for the Murray Property land acquisition.