War and the Simpsons

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Yasmeen
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War and the Simpsons

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Taken from CNN.com:
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld Wednesday outlined three scenarios that could avert a war against Iraq: Saddam Hussein leaves voluntarily and is followed by new leadership that abides by international law; Saddam leaves involuntarily; or Saddam adheres to U.N. resolutions.
And by Saddam leaving involuntarily he means someone's finger accidentally slips and drops a couple nuclear warheads on Iraq... kinda reminds me of the Simpsons episode where they all undergo electroshock therapy together...
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Post by kato »

IF you haven't seen this yet, and have a high speed connection, it's pretty funny. (If you are anti-war, this may raise your blood pressure.)

http://brain-terminal.com/articles/vide ... otest.html
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Political crap.

Post by Lame Wade »

Hey, This a sight about climbing. Don't go stirring a bunch of political crap here unless its political crap about climbing. And only do that on the flame board. We talk about serious climb issues here. Climbing is serious business and we don't need no stinking Rumsfeld here.

Is Rumsfeld a jewish name?
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Well, if they started a war and nuked the Red, you wouldn't be able to climb there. So there.
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Post by cc »

he has a point yasi have fun in life stop be so serious all the time

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Aw what do lame wades know anyway
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kato wrote:IF you haven't seen this yet, and have a high speed connection, it's pretty funny. (If you are anti-war, this may raise your blood pressure.)

http://brain-terminal.com/articles/vide ... otest.html
I thought it was funny, but disappointing. If you read the bio, you'll see that this guy's political/media sense was formed by low-right talk radio. The interview piece is, in the end, weak because it chickens out about stating it's position clearly. It shields its position from examination by never really stating it at all, let alone clearly. (e.g. he never does state why he thinks there should be any time limit on inspectons. no, it isn't just obvious) Bawk bawk bawk (chicken noises)
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Post by kato »

Tom;
I think this piece was more for humor than to make any political statement, that's why he doesn't specifically state a position. Using ad hominem arguments doesn't make your position look all that good, although I know it's de rigueur for this board (excuse my French!).
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Post by tomdarch »

kato wrote:Tom;
I think this piece was more for humor than to make any political statement, that's why he doesn't specifically state a position. Using ad hominem arguments doesn't make your position look all that good, although I know it's de rigueur for this board (excuse my French!).
M.
I disagree that it was 'only humorous.' I think that the 'author' was really trying to undermine the points made by the protesters. A lot of low-right media is preaching to the choir. (Who but a conservative could stand listening to Rush?) In this case, the message to people who support the administration's actions is 'don't listen to the protestors, they're obviously all idiots.' It was funny, but his site existis to make political points - it's interesting, look around.

I'll come back to his question about 'how long should the inspectors be allowed to work?' His question carries in it the implied assumption that there must be a time limit. If I remeber correctly, one of the protestors asks him why there should be a limit, but in the piece he doesn't doesn't respond to this. When preaching to the choir, it is assumed that there should be a limit (and further, that it has already been exceeded). This aproach is simply an element of the style. For what it's worth, Micheal Moore does the same sort of thing, but for the forces of good.

I don't think that this is an ad hominem attack - I'm not saying that the speaker is bad, and thus anything he says must be bad. Rather this is a very specific critique of the 'author's' method of persuasion. (But I AM calling his technique 'chicken' because it very specifically avoids exposing itself to direct analysis)
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Post by CPower »

What do you guys think Rumsfeld can pull? They should decide world issues by
sport climbing comps. Of course Saddam would surely be accused of using off-
route huecos for rest and George would bomb Iraq anyway, but it would be cool
for a while.
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