Spoiled by Ray!

Post by **kneebar** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:27 pm

Man I'm getting spoiled. I just got a Squamish guide book, just black and white. Routes there look super cool but just dosen't have the same visual impact when you first start paging through like the Red River Gorge guide! Between Ray's guide and the full color Utah Creek guide we used for a bunch of the spring I'm just plain old spoiled!

I know it has been said plenty before but Ray , you put out one hell of a guide!

Post by **SCIN** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:45 pm

Thanks Ken. Although it's really Wolverine Publishing who's spoiling us all. Dave Pegg has some excellent hookups for color printing.

Post by **merrick** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:17 pm

squamish is calling you ken.....

Post by **ynot** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:06 pm

Sort of like the difference between a Cadilac and a go cart ,isn't it?

Post by **merrick** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:12 pm

and the best part is that until rays radness came out the squamish select and squamish bouldering guides were some of the best I had seen.

and now they are obsolete.

long live ray!!!

Post by **ewaaser** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:13 am

I just got the new Seneca guidebook and had the very same reaction. Made me appreciate Ray's work even more!

Post by **hearn** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:36 pm

senca has a new guidebook. Can you see where the routes go in the new one? I really think the old one may have been the the worst guidebook i've ever seen. I'm suprised to actually see a new one out though. Tony's been talking about making a new book every time i've been down there for the last 6 or so years.

Post by **tomdarch** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:43 pm

SCIN wrote:Thanks Ken. Although it's really Wolverine Publishing who's spoiling us all. Dave Pegg has some excellent hookups for color printing.

Ray and Dave both did an insane amount of work on the guidebook. They're standing on Johnny's big shoulders, but they did him proud!

I'm a huge guidebook freak, and this is one of the best around, especially considering that the Red is a big, spread out climbing area - well over a thousand routes at (currently) 140 individual crags. Considering how much more popular climbing is in Europe, it's saying something that this guide rivals the best full-color guides I've seen for European crags.

Post by **kneebar** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:35 am

merrick wrote:squamish is calling you ken.....

For sure, looks like a good place for a crack addict like me!

Post by **TradMike** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:49 pm

hearn wrote:senca has a new guidebook. Can you see where the routes go in the new one? I really think the old one may have been the the worst guidebook i've ever seen. I'm suprised to actually see a new one out though. Tony's been talking about making a new book every time i've been down there for the last 6 or so years.

I looked at it the other day and all of the routes are nicely laid out over a photo now. You are correct about the last book being terrible. It was hard to find a climb let alone the correct line. I found out that I did Solar with some variations after looking at it.