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usable range?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:53 pm
by john e aragon
it would be nice if cam manufactures were actually climbers. then they could give a range for thier products that reflects how the camming device can be placed and still hold a fall. for example, no cam on the market will hold a fall if it is tipped out (in a parallel crack) . this means the max. range of any cam listed is a usless piece of information. also the min. range is also usless, because if you place it fully cammed it will be booty for the guy who carries a crow bar in his pack. all this means is that any range is actually less than listed (which produces holes in all manufactures product, or cracks that no cam on your rack will fit). now, i will get to my point, are there any mixtures of brands of cam that cure the "hole" problem? i know that many cams have different "ranges" for similar sizes.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:56 pm
by Guest
cam manufacturers ARE climbers. WTF are you talking about?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:01 pm
by SCIN
Black Diamond has some bad ass climbers working for them.
Not sure about the other companies but I'm sure they do too.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:08 pm
by john e aragon
do you guys even trad climb? i was making a joke about the companies' workers. the rest is not a joke.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:09 pm
by Guest
all I read was "it would be nice if cam manufactures were actually climbers. whine blah blah blah blah" since you lost your credibility with your opening statement.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:13 pm
by john e aragon
go back and reread it. then go out buy a rack climb about a 1000 trad routes and 5 or 6 different states then you may have half the credibilty i do!
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:14 pm
by SCIN
Ummmm...no. Never climbed a crack in my life. What is trad climbing? What is a cam?
The only thing I read was Lynne saying:
cam manufacturers ARE climbers. WTF are you talking about?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:19 pm
by Guest
I'll bet my cams have been in far more interesting cracks than yours uh huh!
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:20 pm
by Guest
ummmmm cam lube
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:22 pm
by Guest
what was the question?