Page 1 of 3

Climbing Museum?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:01 pm
by ruetut
Will the latest article on the RRG in Urban Climber make it into the online Climbing Museum anytime soon?

Just curious

thanks,
BT

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:09 pm
by Meadows
Are you volunteering to scan it? I was going to do it, but I haven't made it to a scanner yet.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:24 pm
by SCIN
I've got some cool stuff but my scanner sucks.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:42 am
by ruetut
What file does it need to be scanned into? I'm limited to the iupui computer labs

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:52 am
by Meadows
It looks like the others are in .jpg.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:05 pm
by SCIN
Anything really. I can convert it if you can scan it.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:39 pm
by ray
Just added Stones of Years - Second Edition:
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/museum/ ... mage0.html

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:36 am
by tomdarch
Stones of Years, 2nd Ed. 1990 wrote:The ethics of "rap bolting" have been argued thoroughly and virulently in nearly every climbing magazine published within the last five years. I do not intend to reiterate the debate here. Consult any of these publications for the details, substitute the "Red River Gorge" for "Yosemite," "Hueco Tanks," etc., and you'll have a good approximation of the situation. The upshot locally is that "rap bolted" routes are non de rigeur. The reason is that climbers of all levels are overwhelmingly opposed to them. The reasoning is that in and area with inexhaustible potential for natural lines well within the current ability of many climbers, it is both arrogant and stupid to begin exhausting a future resource at this time. Any "rap bolt" routes that do appear are considered fair game for removal. To be fair, a small amount of articulate dissent has been voiced by the individuals who are interested in the vast face-climbing potential of the area. But routes such as Whimpering Insanity, Zimbabwae, Shiver Me Timbers, Into the Void Direct, 5.11 Jimmy, and Pulling Pockets are all adventurous, bolted face climbs done in a style that is beyond rebuke.
Good thing we've spent the last 15 years working our way through the inexhaustible supply of moderate "natural" lines. And as for those goofball "individuals" who are interested in the "face-climbing potential", well, the community has tolerated routes like Whimpering Insanity and Void Direct - isn't that enough? Besides, now is clearly not the time to 'exhaust' the potential of maybe a hundred or so face climbs scattered around the Red!

(I'm just poking fun at the very different perspective that existed less than 20 years ago...)

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:39 pm
by JB
notice that you can't rebuke the bolts that hackworth put in, but he can rebuke yours! ;-)

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:34 pm
by gulliver
quote from the "Stones of Years" article posted above:

"The reasoning is that in and area with inexhaustible potential for natural lines well within the current ability of many climbers, it is both arrogant and stupid to begin exhausting a future resource at this time."

I think this still has something to say to drilling and chipping enthusiasts.