Of fireworks, juvenile acts, dogs and the land.

Post by **rjackson** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:59 pm

Everyone has an opinion, but what are the official positions of the varied organizations and owners of the crags where we climb on these issues?

National Parks and Forrest Service. RRGCC. Muir Valley. Private Owners. State Law.

I am not looking to start arguments, bond with like minded individuals or create a monster...simply looking for information.

Juveniles feel free to tell me where to go, enlightened individuals can point me in a direction, and those in the know should share.

Thanks.

Post by **squeezindlemmon** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:01 pm

FYI, Muir Valley has a leash law in effect.

Post by **Artsay** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:04 pm

PMRP rules - "All dogs must be on a leash or under control of their owners."

Post by **DuppyC** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:23 pm

dogs must be leashed or under verbal command in national forests.

However, I am still waiting on a legit M-80 offer.

Post by **haas** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:51 am

Most national parks out west do not allow dogs period, RMNP, Zion, Yosemite. Most state parks out west have leash laws with hefty fines, especially Eldo

Post by **Crankmas** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:14 pm

my advise is to kill a lawyer, they are over represented in govt and thus pass stupid ass laws after stupid ass laws, piss poor legislation and generally suck in all matters related to life as a K9 or human being

Post by **Christian** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:49 pm

It was my understanding that under the new "get tough on everything" criminal code no one is allowed to be within 1000 feet of themselves. If they are their charge will be "enhance" by an upward shift in the felony charge and a corresponding "enhancement" of the sentence from life without parole to "life with Oprah Whinfrey".

Post by **kirker** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:45 pm

I started to express my dissatisfaction with some of the dog leash laws in and around the Red, but quickly erased after reading it. I realized that few people truly enjoy the site of animals enjoying themselves. Most just enjoy the thought of owning a dog, cat ect, but block out the thought of how stupid it is to tie them up. Those of you who understand thankyou, and those that don't ask yourself if the local animals that inhabit the areas we climb and hike wished we were tied up.

Post by **kris** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:55 pm

gullwing wrote:Those of you who understand thankyou, and those that don't ask yourself if the local animals that inhabit the areas we climb and hike wished we were tied up.

Good Point!

Post by **Spragwa** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:27 am

I doubt it's just the woodland creatures who wish that I was tied up...many people would prefer that I were muzzled as well.

Fortunately, my owner doesn't care about public opinion.