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A0
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:48 pm
by Sunshine
Would you do a really cool 5.11 if you had to stick the first bolt and aid up to it to begin the route?
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:54 pm
by Lateralus
Sure would at most places but at the Red I'd have to say it better be one helluva line considering the company it would keep. Ever been to the killer cave in Lander, lot of the routes are A0 starts. There is a no starts wall at City of Rocks as the bottom 20 feet or so have no holds but after that the climbing is really good.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:03 pm
by One-Fall
Sunshine, don't forget there is precedence for doing that. There is that climb to the right of Nolo Contendere at Sky Bridge, Forty Ounces of Justice at the Lode (because of rotten rock, not hard moves), DaisyChain at Military (again, less than perfect rock).
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:18 pm
by Danny
like oil crack
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:46 pm
by KD
most certainly
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:35 pm
by Paul3eb
it'd have to be really good and get a lot of talk from people i know that have good taste in routes. with so many good lines in the red in the .11 and .12 range, it would have to take a lot to convince me.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:37 pm
by chriss
Definitely!
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:38 pm
by pawilkes
ya'll seem lazy, its not that hard to jug up for 10-15 feet. i do it sunshine, especially if you say its good, you know your stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:54 pm
by Paul3eb
it's not a matter of laziness.. it's a matter of preference. personally, i prefer to get a climb from the ground up.
like you: it's not that you don't like women, it's just that you prefer to sleep with men.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:28 am
by Toad
Why not just chip some holds or glue on some edges to make it go from the ground up?