Manifest Destiny 12a

Post by **robert birchell** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:03 pm

Is pulling the roof the crux? What is it like above the roof? Any and all beta is welcome. How does it compare to Hippocrite for quality?
thanks
Robert

Post by **Paul3eb** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:05 pm

perhaps you should start a global thread that would encompass all 12a's in the red.. might be more efficient.

Post by **Andrew** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:28 pm

manifest is 11b. no hard moves.

Post by **Artsay** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:48 pm

I agree with Andrew. At the roof just reach out to a bomber hold. It's all there. Maybe harder for really short people but I'm 5'3" and didn't have a problem with it. Get on it. It's a great route! So is the 11a to the left of it.

Post by **enduro** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:28 pm

Manifest is 5.9- at best.

Post by **Andrew** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:49 am

no 5.8 at the most.

Post by **ynp1** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:34 pm

is this guy looking for an easy 12?

Post by **hoss** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:49 pm

easy 12s, Expresso at Muir, Hardcore Jollies at Funkrock. These two are by far the easiest 12s I've ever been on.

Post by **J-Rock** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:54 pm

There is an option on the online guide that allows you to place a vote for a route grade. I would encourage people to use that feature regardless of whether the grade feels soft or stiff. (That route was graded based on consensus - not the first ascentionist).

Post by **clif** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:03 pm

Artsay wrote:I agree with Andrew. At the roof just reach out to a bomber hold. It's all there. Maybe harder for really short people but I'm 5'3" and didn't have a problem with it. Get on it. It's a great route! So is the 11a to the left of it.

please explain. did you use those shallow 1/4" deep pockets in the roof, no hands dyno or were you able to lay back horizontally with way high feet off of the verticle left facing flake, or did you use the semi-matching big flat edges- cause that's a long way...

thanks.