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What's the top of St. Alfonso's at Phantasia look like?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:22 pm
by knooper
My friends and I were out at Phantasia this weekend scoping out some trad climbs we hadn't done before and had a question about St. Alfonso's over by Attack of the Sand Shark: What does the top look like? The guidebook says rap from a tree, but are there enough places up there to build an anchor for a toprope? I'm fine with rapping down from a tree, but I'd rather use it as only 1 of 2 or 3 points for a toprope anchor, especially with inexperienced climbers with us. Has anyone been up there recently? If there's webbing up there, how does it look? Thanks!

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:49 pm
by ynot
I remember doing it and toproping,but I don't remember whats up there.
Build a good anchor to TR then clean it and rap. Shouldnt be a problem. The problem I had at the time was not having multiple big pro. Fist sized .Sometimes the top is wet.

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:04 pm
by Jeff
Last time up, sometime last year, there was new webbing.
If you plan on TR'ing it, you may want a couple of runners to extend the anchors a bit so they hang over the edge.
As far as how it looks...it is good sized ledge, a little sloped and dirty.

Watch for wasps/hornets.
Never have seen any up there myself, but ran into a guy at Seneca who said he got nailed on St Alfonsos.
That was around Labor Day of last year.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:34 pm
by Stewy911
Last thing I heard about this climb was that it is infested with "killer" hornets at the top.

alfonzo's

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:56 pm
by matt
The tree mentioned in description is about 10 feet back off the top of the climb if I remember right. Because of this, the anchor requires a fair amount of webbing/extension if you are planning on toproping. As of about 1 year ago, the webbing was all there and in fairly good shape. When I did this route, we were also setting up a toprope for new climbers. I would recommend belaying from the top if you are going to do this. I think the route is a bit longer than the descriptions states. Its probably about 80 feet if my memory serves me right (caution...it rarely does). Have fun. Its a good route and probably in the shade which is even more important now.