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Where are climbers coming from?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:32 pm
by weber
Over a seven day period, we received 62 release forms submitted to the Muir Valley website. (This brings the total to about 600 for the past year.)

Of the 62, more forms were submitted by folks from Ontario, Canada than any other state or province -- a total of 9. Next came Germany with 6, MI with 4, MA with 3, and NY with 3. There was one lone form from KY.

At this time, we are pretty sure MI and IN are running neck and neck for the most registered climbers, with OH and KY in close persuit. The top four towns seem to be Lexington, Indianapolis, Cincinatti, and Ann Arbor, MI. Ann Arbor???? Yep. Seems those Planet Rock people up there enjoy coming to the Red.

When time permits, we'll go through all the forms, update our database, and tally some stats. This will give a pretty good idea where visitors to the Red are coming from. We are also curious about the age stats. More later.

Rick

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:42 pm
by dhoyne
For all the Planet Rock people climbing in the red, they need to set better routes in their gym. I went up there last week, and I was extremely impressed with the actual walls and boulder problems, but the routes were as consistant as the weather in the midwest. Just my opinion, don't want to offend anyone.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:25 pm
by alien2
Ann Arbor is a whore. Well, that is what I read on the back of a shirt.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:06 pm
by chriss
dhoyne wrote:For all the Planet Rock people climbing in the red, they need to set better routes in their gym. I went up there last week, and I was extremely impressed with the actual walls and boulder problems, but the routes were as consistant as the weather in the midwest. Just my opinion, don't want to offend anyone.
Are you kidding? I have been there a couple times and their routes are great! One of there walls is around 60 feet or so which is pretty good for a gym. I'm not sure what you mean by consistant, but if you mean difficulty, not all routes have the same difficulty for every move.

More on topic, it seems that I run into Michigan people almost everytime I'm at the red.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:16 pm
by Stewy911
Muir valley is gonna be a jewel once the routes get cleaned up and get traffic. Alot of them already have but this place will become a roadside or a torrent eventually and everyone will love it. as far as where people are from I met a few from New York and Georgia awhiile back but most are from around here!

Stats on visitors to Muir

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:13 pm
by weber
Stewy911 wrote:...as far as where people are from I met a few from New York and Georgia awhiile back but most are from around here!
Here are a few stats based on some of the data in our database of all the climbers who registered on the Muir Valley Website by submitting a release form. This is only a sampling, as parts of the database are in different locations at this time. Please note that only summary info will be posted. All the personal data is kept strictly confidential.

What do you think the average age of a RRG climber is?

Based on 443 entries, the mean age is 30.3 years. And, the median age is 28.

The youngest climber to register is 8 years old, and surprisingly, the oldest in 443 entries (200+ more yet to check) is the grand old geezer I'm married to -- Liz Weber at 61. (She beat me by 2 months!).

As for where they are coming from, this will take a little more work in the database. But in only the latest 160 entries, Ontario Canada had the most registered with 24. Ohio was next with 22. MI with 17, IN with 9. Then it trickles on down through KY, CO, WI, WV, VA, MA, NH, NY, IL, GA, FL, TN, and PA. A large group from Germany is coming over in May.

Rick

Re: Stats on visitors to Muir

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:18 pm
by lordjim_2001
weber wrote:... the oldest in 443 entries (200+ more yet to check) is the grand old geezer I'm married to -- Liz Weber at ....
Me thinks someone is sleeping on the couch tonight.

Re: Stats on visitors to Muir

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:43 pm
by weber
lordjim_2001 wrote:
weber wrote:... the oldest in 443 entries (200+ more yet to check) is the grand old geezer I'm married to -- Liz Weber at ....
Me thinks someone is sleeping on the couch tonight.
:shock:
:(

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:48 pm
by squeezindlemmon
Liz is not 61!?! She looks so much younger than that! :wink:

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:55 pm
by dhoyne
[quote="chriss]Are you kidding? I have been there a couple times and their routes are great! One of there walls is around 60 feet or so which is pretty good for a gym. I'm not sure what you mean by consistant, but if you mean difficulty, not all routes have the same difficulty for every move.[quote]

Like I said, the walls themselves are excellent. I'm just not a fan of a 5.10 route that is 30ft of 5.8 jugs with power moves, followed by 10 feet of 5.11 slopers, followed by 10 feet of 5.9 technical crimps. Sure there's going to be variation within a route, but alot of the routes have two or three distinctly different styles. It's as if one person sets the 1st third, another sets the 2nd 3rd, and then a 3rd person looks at what's up there and blends them together for the last bit.