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9.6mm rope and grigri

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:43 am
by Paul3eb
now, i know the gri gri is rated for a 10mm rope but i was wondering if anyone would know if it'll still work with a 9.6mm sterling. i have a 9.9 edelweiss and it's been just fine. this summer i saw a 9.7mm something-or-another quasi-slip through.. it more or less just gave automatic soft catches.. anyone every try a 9.6mm or hear of it tried?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:47 am
by Wes
I just got a 9.8 sterling, and it works just fine with a gri gri.

Wes

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:53 am
by ElectricDisciple
Rocksport in L-ville just changed their ropes to a thinner diameter. I don't know what their ropes are, but they do tend to slip through the gri-gri. I think it works ok, but I've noticed that the slipping does tend to tick me off when I am trying to work out a route. Of course, I like a tight belay... And my belay device of choice is definitely NOT a Gri-Gri. They produce belayers who will for the most part "be lazy". An ATC is much better, and requires a LOT more attention to the climber. If you're going to use a Gri, why don't you just stick with a thicker rope?

ED

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:59 am
by meetVA
Oh dear God! Not the ATC vs Gri-gri rampage again! Please all, don't attack the poor Gumby. He knows not what viper den he has stepped into.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:13 am
by ElectricDisciple
meetVA, perhaps you could be so kind as to highlight the rampage for me so that in future I can keep my mouth shut or defend my simple little gadget?

ED

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:18 am
by meetVA
ED: well, I would but I'm going to bed. Try the search function. I think people concluded that both devices WHEN USED CORRECTLY will acheive the desired effect of catching a fall. And that with human error BOTH devices WILL fail.

Please don't take a little teasing so seriously, unless of course I'm misreading your tone as well, if that's the case then tease others more aggressively.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:35 pm
by SikMonkey
Hey Paul,
I used the Gri-Gri with a 9.6 Sterling and it did just fine....come to think of it, I have caught Power2U with a Gri-Gri when he was climbing on his 9.4 Beal. You just have to treat it like an ATC.

Mj

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:10 pm
by Paul3eb
ED, i'm going to ignore most of your response since it was mostly an opinion piece about something other than my question. as for your question, why not use a thicker rope?.. because i don't want a heavy, hard to thread while rappelling, bulky, glorified piece of string hanging from me when i'm 20, 30, 40 meters up a route. indian creek reminded me of just how much a rope can weigh, especially if you throw in a little rope drag..

sikmonkey, hmm.. did the grigri still autolock or did it become essentially a true atc?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:50 pm
by ynot
If you just want to shave some weight,dump the greeger for an ATC and shave some more wieght.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:56 pm
by Paul3eb
..how would that save me weight if i'm leading? as long as my belayer is attentive and feeds me out enough slack it shouldn't make any difference with respect to weight.. right?