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I have hear you guys and gals say it before "consensus grade"
How about one for The Gift at long wall.

I said 12a, but it could be harder. It certainly can put a little fear in you, thinking about hitting the slab.

When when my partner and i did the fa of the gift there were two less bolts. the one going from the slab to the clip on the bulge and the last one going to the top. i retrobolted it few years later because no one would do it . Bill called everything 11d! it probably is 12a. i know alot of climbers that have climbed it and said it felt harder than 11d. Bill Mcullough passed away a few years ago. He was an excellent climber and friend. that same year we both repointed Till the cows come home 12a The rifleman 12b and Straightedge 12a and Bill called them all 11+. A few years later he decided they were all 12.

You two are some burly dudes!! Beautiful routes! THanks

Great routes, all of them! Is that a consensus?

I guess it is. it looks jim, jamie and hugh the fa's of the other routes i spoke of were not afraid of giving there routes the 12 rating. i dont think alot of climbers would object giving the gift the 12a rating.

hey t-boner, we need to do them this week. great routes. call me, i ran over my cell phone (it still works) and i dont have any #'s..

I really miss that little pebble that used to be in the wall above the slab. I'm not sure I can do the route at all. Seems solid 12a.

By the way, I wonder if Til the Cows Come Home would be consensus 12b. Bafflingly small holds.
You done that route recently T-bone?

T-bone. You guys scored one of the best looking sport routes I have ever seen. Truth be told, it climbs better than it looks.
Kick-ass route.