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Emergency walkie talkie channel in Red

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:44 pm
by weber
When Muir Valley opened, route setters and climbers started using FRS walkie talkies to keep in touch. These are the cheap little radios you can buy for 12 dollars at big box stores.

They have worked out great for finding out who is where and what crags are uncrowded in the Valley.

Last week, a climber in Muir injured her ankle, and had a long hobble up the steep road to the parking lot. Had she had one of these walkie talkies, several people were within minutes of her aid.

Climbers who visit Muir are strongly encouraged to get one of these walkie talkies and bring it with them to the Valley. The common channel monitored is 5.10 (That means channel 5, privacy code 10 is dialed in.) Besides general communication, they can provide an effective emergency channel for the area.

A reminder to newcomers, cell phones do NOT work in the gorges and valleys, and rarely work anywhere in the Region except along the Parkway near towns.

However, you can get an amazingly good cell phone signal standing in the Muir Valley's graveled parking lot (with the kiosk sign.) Probably much due to this spot being 1200 feet in elevation. So, if an emergency phone call needs to be made from the Valley, go to this parking lot.

The only downside to the FRS walkie talkies is the limited range -- about 2 miles, or maybe a mile if you are deep in a hollow. But, that should get you in touch with someone in the immediate area who has a radio. A call can also be relayed person-to-person to a place where someone can use a cell phone.

As a safety measure, I would suggest that, not just in Muir Valley, but at any of the crags in the region, climbers to carry one of these radios in their packs and keep it turned on to monitor channel 5.10. If there are a bunch of climbers with radios at a popular crag, to avoid a cacaphony, all but one or two could be turned off.

I will also let Middlefork and Campton Fire Rescue know about the use of this channel. It might help during a response to a climbing accident.

Rick Weber

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:22 pm
by the lurkist
I would like to point out the reality Emergency Medical Response in the Powell, Lee, and Wolfe Co. areas. The reality is that while these Fire Depts are staffed with the most well meaning people in the world. they are all uniformly basic life support only. Unless things hae changed recently, this means that if you get hurt, your responders are able to do the bare minimum. This does not include any advanced airway support, intravenous fluid therapy (if you are bleeding out), any kind of drug therapy or advanced cardiac life support (no shocking).
As I used to say when I worked in Stanton, if you loose your airway in this area of Eastern Kentucky you had better be able to hold your breath for 35-40 minutes (the trip time to Winchester).
These fire dept.s can still back board you and put on the cervical collar to immobilze your broken neck and even splint your compound fracture in the position they find it in, and they can bag you with a oxygen to supplement your agonal respirations, but that is about it.
I am not encouraging anyone to not utilize these services, because while it is limited, if you are seriously hurt, and not so hurt that you will die within an hour, your best bet is to let these very capable first respnders come and get you. You would probably do more harm to yourself if you or your friends at the cliff tried evacuations without taking the necessary cervical spine immobilization and other immobilizations precautions.
I thought it appropriate to bring this up amid the current discussions of injury in the Red.