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I would just like to take a few moments to not name anyone specifically, but rass a few individuals.

There was a lot of whinning and wimping-out of climbing at Long Wall on Sunday just because the approach trail is "steep, long and hard".

Being new to the LW, after all the talk I thought we were in for an expedition.
Someone mentioned how they had a Romancing the Stone epic slide down the trail after some rainy days...
I heard of a V1 boulder problem in the middle of the trek...
That there was going to be bush-wacking and snake attacks and all sorts of evil that make you earn your climbing priveledges for the day...

In the end it was a fairly short approach, a little steep true but harmless in comparison to others.

Anyone got something to back up the fear of the "Long Walk"?

What approach trails are worse out there than this?! Bring it on!

NO approaches in the Red are long or difficult. People here just like to whine.

the approach to pistol ridge and all points beyond are long now that FS9 is closed. We walked it on a spectacularly hot day...the road is not bad to walk of course, but once you do that road, then start the actual approach to the crag, you begin to think: "why didn't I go to Roadside?"

On the reverse...I have always liked the approach to Global Village, it has a little something for everyone.

The approach to Solar Collector from our cabin is fun too...jeep trails and old pipe ladders....fun stuff.

After my trips to the Red Rocks and Smith Rock, I realized how lucky I am that the approaches at the Red, even the one to LW, are so easy, short and relatively safe.

smith rock has a perfectly flat trail every where...and red rocks! c'mon...the only place in red rocks with a longer approach than the red is the rainbow wall. approaches in the red suck just as much as anywhere else.

people at the red just like to pretend that they are bad asses and "enjoy" hiking. why don't you go hike then and quit crowding all the climbing areas.

I hear that at Red Rocks the guidebook is notorious. It has entries like, "Turn right past the big boulder." HA!

I'm not arguing that the approach trail to LW isn't something sometimes I'd rather have an escalator to use. But heck! The climbs up there are sweet! I'm definitely heading back there one of these days....who'll rope gun for me?

i will if you carry my pack.

Just try it with a full rack, rope, and magnium crash pad one day. Then let me know what you think

And then try to walk down when the trail is a running stream without busting your ass, and sliding nearly to you death. Not that I would ever fall on a trail or anything like that...

Long wall has some cool routes for sure. B3 is on the short list for the fall...

Wes

HoFo, you are on! I'll carry your pack and you'll carry me, right?

Yeah Wes, you are right about the rack weighing you down. I only had to carry food, quickdraws and the rope. But really, who needs a crash pad? Doesn't that seem to be a bit much?

And man, I was NOT going to blow your cover about sliding butt-first down the trail. (I think I know where that happened though, was it near a felled tree? What a ride that would be...granted, with your pad it would be more like sliding down on an inflated pool floatie than your own bum!)

Try to work Now I am Nothing without a pad...*

I didn't have the pad on that day, and there was no Joan Wilder waiting at the bottom of the slide like romancing the stone, only rocks and trees. I think it was getting near the limestone band with the "v1" boulder problem, but can't remember for sure.

Wes

* edit for you old school people that did it without a pad - yes I am a whimpy new school climber and like nice big crash pads. But, at least I am trying it ground up without TR first...